Alright, first off, hi…shout out to all my suspended peeps.
If a second post shows up under my name, it’s because I typed my “answer”, then joined, it said it would save it, but it doesn’t appear it has, but my luck, it will show up anyway when I least expect it.
Re my avatar, didn’t pick it, but I kinda like it.
I read some of these comments last night, but was trying to get a better handle on what was going on before I popped over.
Re the suspensions, wow, don’t know what to say. Still not sure how to react. From what little I do know, I am guessing this has a LOT to do with the back and forth between the majority of the AV17, and one particular person who shall remain nameless (as she already has too many names over at Askville to begin with). A lot of the back and forth I know was about how this person was gaming the system for more gold. As I never really cared about the gold, and I never personally had a run in with the person, I stayed out of it, so I’m admittedly a bit out of the fray now. But I saw enough of the back and forth to draw a few conclusions.
First, though I’m not going to judge who crossed the line and when. If I am to just assume that you all did cross that line, here’s what I have to say about that. It seems to me that the same people suspended were the ones absolutely SCREAMING for Askville to take some action. They did not, and y’all got frustrated (understandably).
So, in a way, Askville itself was the catalyst…had they acted, some of you may not have gone off the deep end per se.
In light of this, I think a 3 out of 4 strikes and a week suspension is way too harsh, particularly when there is no warning given.
It also seems that they are giveing everyone the same treatment, regardless of who set this off, and who went the “most” crazy (who threatened to sue over having their feelings hurt for example). Doesn’t seem consistent or fair.
And I’m never a big fan of retroactively applying new rules. There were perfectly good rules already in place to deal with the behaviours they wanted to punish. If they had consistently and fairly applied them, they could have given some people one, two or three strikes, taken away set amount of gold, etc. No one had any way of knowing in the heat of the exhanges that they could get snared in the same net and now be one step away from a lifetime ban.
I also worry in that it seems many of those on this list were the most vocal critics of Askville. For example, OldHippie who hasn’t as far as I see made an appearance here, I know went as far as to call the Askville Mayor out in question form to say, looks like you aren’t going to do squat. I worry is this retaliation…is it not HOW you leveled your criticism, but at WHOM? I can’t back that up with anything but a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach, and I’m hearing others say they don’t think that’s it. But if anyone feels targeted, I’d be interested in knowing.
As for me, I’m not leaving AV just yet, but I also won’t stick around if it becomes a facist regime. I’m sticking around to see where the chips fall, to show solidarity, and to serve as a link between these two communities. I’ll have to see how I like this place.
I heard Poppet was inquiring about me, so hi Poppet.
I’ll be back.
)
| asked August 5th, 2008
| 1024 responses
| “Great Question” (13
Topics:
Composing members:
0
