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Mel Gibson vs Jews, is there no room for reconciliation?

Asked by mazingerz88 (26677points) September 9th, 2011

I’m looking at this primarily from the perspective of a Hollywood movie fan. It started with The Passion of the Christ, then that drunk driving incident where Gibson spewed anti-Semitic remarks.

I believe the actor a few years ago, showed up at a synagogue in LA and had a discussion where he explained himself with Jewish leaders there, short of actually apologizing-?

It seemed what was probably an already dwindling career, got worse because of this, pile up the feral phone remarks and the craziness towards his estranged wife.

As a movie fan, I feel bad about Mel Gibson. I so enjoyed his movies. I was astounded with Braveheart but even before that, I liked The Man Without A Face ( which incidentally is what seemed to be his predicament right now ) Apocalypto was amazing, imo.

So what would it take for him and the Jewish folks who disapprove of him to really reconcile and forgive-? He still has Jewish support in Hollywood but recently, news was announced that he is doing a film about Judah Maccabee, a hero in Jewish history and this is like bitch-slappin the hornet’s nest again. Here’s the link.

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Blackberry's avatar

Jews have bigger problems than one worthless bigot lol.

JLeslie's avatar

I’m Jewish. I don’t feel Mel Gibson is antisemetic. I think he can be an asshole, drinks too much, and is way too religious for my taste.

ragingloli's avatar

I heard that when he made the movie “Signs”, he just took an older script and inserted “alien” where ever it said “Jew”.

mazingerz88's avatar

@Blackberry Oww, Braveheart is not worthless. Freedoooom! Lol.

But I still am interested on how this dispute could be remedied. Or is this going to be like the Palestinian and Israelis debacle? No end.

SuperMouse's avatar

I too have been a fan of Mel’s, all the way back to Tim and the amazing The Year of Living Dangerously, personally I do think he is is an anti-Semite. I guess @Blackberry has a point that there are bigger issues to deal with, Mr. Gibson is widely recognized and his ignorance and bigotry are spread farther and wider than average. For that reason I think his behavior is inexcusable. Like it or not when folks chose to make their living in the public eye they need to be held to a higher standard. As an aside, I was impressed with the stand Zach Galifinakis took when Gibson was offered a role in Hangover 2.

As for watching his movies, I still have a bad taste in my mouth and won’t be seeing any of his films in the near future.

SpatzieLover's avatar

Like @SuperMouse Mel’s antics all of the recent ones have left an imprint on my brain that I cannot shake. Therefore, I can’t see him as the role he’s playing. Instead I see someone that needs to seek help and do self-work.

CWOTUS's avatar

Tempest in a teapot. Mel Gibson, whatever his flaws – and he seems to have more than a few, and drinks enough to give free rein to them from time to time – is not an out-and-out anti-Semite. He may be somewhat bigoted toward Jews, but I’m sure that Jews are very used to that by now, and don’t worry so much about it. It’s not their problem; it’s his.

So, since he’s not out to drive them out of Israel – or Hollywood! – and no one in either of those places is calling for his scalp (at least in a literal sense), I’m sure this will all go away one day.

Coloma's avatar

The guys a raging, pathological narcissist and drunken abuser. He has lost all credibility and fandom from me.

Just another fucked up product of Hollywood.

I hope he finds his way to health and healing, but, it;s doubtful. If someone doesn’t wake the hell up and work on their crap by the time they hit their 50’s, odds are it’s never gonna happen.

janbb's avatar

Sorry – I have no interest in rehabilitating Mel Gibson or his career. although I agree he had talent. He’s an asshole and an anti-Semite and I don’t throw around either term lightly. And I agree, basically it’s his problem, not the Jews’.

flutherother's avatar

If there is no reconciliation then what is the alternative?

janbb's avatar

The alternative is that Jews who don’t want to don’t support his work and people who do want to, do. This isn’t about apartheid or the Sudan or even Israel; it’s about not choosing to support one very rich actor who has not particularly reformed. I wouldn’t see anything Charlie Sheen did now either for that matter (although I do have a bit of a motherly soft spot for Lindsey Lohan.)

SpatzieLover's avatar

@janbb I feel exactly as you do for all of the above mentioned. There’s no way I can get past Charlie’s behavior…especially to women. Mel’s the same way. He spews hate for jews, women and clearly for himself. It’d be impossible for me to take either of them seriously in a performance at this point.

Lindsey and her sister need help. :(

MRSHINYSHOES's avatar

Only if Mel Gibson marries Barbara Streisand. ;)

I think he’s got a lot of damage control to do. But even so, I don’t think he will ever be forgiven for his stupidity.

Heck, I’m still bothered by Rosie O’Donnell’s “ching-chong, ching-chong rant” that she made on The View a few years ago. Lol.

filmfann's avatar

Mad Mel is a terrific filmmaker, and a great actor. I hope he can find forgiveness from the Jewish Community.
He is quite religious. He also is a big Bible scholar. I understand his fustraition with Israel, but I cannot justify what he spews when he is liquored up.

Coloma's avatar

@filmfann

So he claims…I don’t buy his fake persona, he’s a classic fraudulent personality.

Actions speak louder than words.

janbb's avatar

People also need to remember that the Jewish community is not a monolith. We do not speak with one voice; in fact, we usually are arguing about most things (including Israel and its treatment of the Palestinians).

King_Pariah's avatar

I say shut the f*** up and deal with real issues. It’s just a movie, and who the hell knows? It’s probably an apology in some way. Now, if the movie turns out to be anti-semite, then go ahead and burn him at the stake for all I care.

woodcutter's avatar

@MRSHINYSHOES Barbara Streisand? That chick is old enough to be his mother!

Probably there’s a special place in purgatory for Rosie;)
Famous people do dumb things ,usually on tape. Especially if they’re drunk, or megalo’s.
The rest of us do it amongst ourselves.

flutherother's avatar

@Coloma It is words that got Mel Gibson into bother, drunken words. In terms of actions Mel Gibson gives a lot of money to various charities. I’m not a fan of Mel Gibson’s film work and I don’t generally like him as an actor, though he was great in Edge of Darkness, but it seems absurd to choose not to watch his films on the basis of things he said while being arrested on a DUI charge.

zensky's avatar

Mel who?

janbb's avatar

@flutherother I don’t really want to get into because it doesn’t interest me that much but it is more of a pattern than a one-time rant. His father is a Holocaust denier (not sure if Mel is or not so I won’t say) and The Passion of the Christ implicates the Jews much more than the historical record does.

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