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Are you one that would pass on money to prove how anti-Trump you are?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) January 24th, 2017

If somehow a position with a company contracted by the Trump administration because they were in support of it, came your way and they truly were sincere about you working there, and offered you full benefits, dental, sight, etc. and insane money, would you pass it up because it was supporting Trump? Would you pass on it even more if a part of the rules to the job was you cannot badmouth Trump on the job or away from it similar to the ethics the guards who watch over The Tomb of The Unknown Soldier must take?If somehow a position with a company contracted by the Trump administration because they were in support of it, came your way and they truly were sincere about you working there, and offered you full benefits, dental, sight, etc. and insane money, would you pass it up because it was supporting Trump? Would you pass on it even more if a part of the rules to the job was you cannot badmouth Trump on the job or away from it similar to the ethics the guards who watch over The Tomb of The Unknown Soldier must take?

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JLeslie's avatar

If the rule was I can’t bad mouth my employer I would be ok signing on. If the rule was I can’t say anything negative about Trump as a President and his policies I wouldn’t take the job. I’ll never be ok with being gagged regarding speaking out against the government and its officials.

Hell, I live in The Villages. The owners donate a whole bunch of money to the republicans. Buying my house and buying from stores that lease their commercial properties is indirectly donating to the republicans. I really thought twice about it before buying here, yet here I am. I try not to think about it too much.

Sneki95's avatar

I’d pass it.

I don’t know what this company does, but I’m sure not qualified to work there, and there is quite a lot of room for suspicion if a company just comes to you and says: “We offer you a job”.

It’s fishy.

Mariah's avatar

I am already making enough money to live my life doing work that feels important and good. Additional money won’t make me much happier, but doing work that feels morally wrong to me would make me unhappy – it’s not a matter of “proving” anything. I’ll pass.

Seek's avatar

Yes, I’d pass.

I also passed on the opportunity to join the local Democratic advisory committee because part of the terms of joining were to support and vote for all local Democratic candidates, no matter what.

I’d love to be involved in liberal politics, but I can’t promise to support someone before I know their stances.

JLeslie's avatar

^^Wow. I can’t believe they require that sort of promise. That’s awful.

Zaku's avatar

I’d think it was a scam because they cut & pasted the same description twice. ;-)

Also those kind of provisions should be illegal. It’s supposed to be a free country.

Aster's avatar

If I were told they’d pay me full benefits plus a salary of $500,000 a year but I couldn’t badmouth Trump?
No Way I’d take them up on it. I’d rather live under a bridge and eat out of dumpsters. In minus 25 degrees. And I pride myself on honesty just like the rest of us on here.

canidmajor's avatar

@Aster, nothing was said about not having a workable standard of living now. I don’t think anyone could be expected to turn down not-starving vs starving.
Would you take such a job now?

Aster's avatar

I’m not really sure. I’m pretty old and sedentary . I probably would take it if the job were next door with weekends off .

elbanditoroso's avatar

What you’re asking, @Hypocrisy_Central , is “how much of a whore are you?”.

Some people will take the money and sell out. That’s their choice.

BellaB's avatar

I’ve been thinking about this for a while now. A friend of mine resigned from his job in the US defence community last week as he didn’t want to be involved in anything that might further Mr.Trump’s agenda. Good job. Superb money and benefits. He told us in November that he’d be doing it. He and his partner had to rearrange their finances, so he made sure she was onboard with it beforehand.

I don’t know that I could quit a job like that – but I wouldn’t take the job he left behind (if I was qualified). Not a question of bad-mouthing Mr. Trump – more of a matter of not supporting his actions.

canidmajor's avatar

Wish I could give more GAs to you, @elbanditoroso. Concisely and correctly put. Bravo!

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@JLeslie If the rule was I can’t say anything negative about Trump as a President and his policies I wouldn’t take the job. I’ll never be ok with being gagged regarding speaking out against the government and its officials.
There is a difference in speaking out against your employer, fraternity, family, etc. when shooting billiards in the privacy of a friend’s home, or at the backyard BBQ and another if you are debating it in the salon or barber shop, or on a street corner in public where you can get caught saying derogatory things on a cell phone, don’t you think?

If you were out of a job for a season and your home was at stake you would rather go homeless or make way less flipping a burger just because you could not badmouth Trump?

Wow. I can’t believe they require that sort of promise. That’s awful.
Why is that? If you are supposed to be down for the party and you go vote a libertarian to an office you are not helping the cause. That is like working Detroit but badmouthing US made cars and only driving Asian cars, those you work with and those higher up can’t trust your loyalty 100% because your actions are not 100% in favor of the company. People do not want to be represented by people not appearing to be 100% behind them, if they can influence it. The guards the The Tomb of The Unknown, can’t cuss, can’t drink, can do drugs, etc. even on their own time, if they get caught, (The Michael Phelps bong in hand Twitter, etc.) they can be dismissed, terminated from the coveted Tomb duty.

@Zaku Also those kind of provisions should be illegal.
The government does similar and it is not illegal, read above.

@Aster I’d rather live under a bridge and eat out of dumpsters. In minus 25 degrees.
Really? Have you ever in live had to do that or even close? I know people who have lived in the streets, some are there today, some have HAD to eat from a dumpster all of the time hoping they don’t get sick, or hoping they don’t freeze to death overnight and the weather was still above zero. They certainly are not in the severe state you spoke of and they do not care to be there, I think if you actually have to do it, your callousness would change faster than a rocket ship on rails.

@elbanditoroso What you’re asking, @Hypocrisy_Central , is “how much of a whore are you?”.
None at all, seeing I care not for the Party of Twiddle Dee (DNC) or the Party of Twiddle Dumb (GOP) for me to not badmouth either if my personal dispensation would increase exponentially is more reasonably than to suffer because of some Klingon, gangbanger sense of honor. Be it a sports team, entertainer, government party, none are putting fuel in my vehicle or meat on my table, so what would it profit me to be able to badmouth one who is not doing that while talking up the other who is not doing it either? If they want to pay me to tout their wears, that might be something to speak of. Not saying anything in public is one matter, being made to say something in support of them is another matter altogether.

Some people will take the money and sell out.
Some will practically take the money, stack it up for a nice nest egg, and keep their private opinions to themselves and voice what they think once they are no longer employed there. They will then drive by those swimming in debt or eating from dumpster behind Klingon-like pride; all the “death before dishonor” BS. If Jezebel Hillary had won and I was offered a cushy job in her administration and all I had to do was keep my mouth shut and do my work but I did not have to loud it from the mountain tops or in public, where is my check.

Seek's avatar

TWEEDLE.

IT’S TWEEDLE FOR FUCK’S SAKE.

god that’s been driving me bananas for ages.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

I don’t have kid’s movies and neither does spell-check, spelling notwithstanding doesn’t take the slime of either party.

Seek's avatar

Books?

canidmajor's avatar

Alice’s Adventures inWonderland by Lewis Carroll, @Hypocrisy_Central. It’s a classic read, from 1865.

DominicY's avatar

If I felt the job were supporting causes and politics I didn’t like, yes, I would pass. But it wouldn’t be to “prove how anti-Trump I am”. I’m not even that anti-Trump. It depends on the job I guess. I don’t see everything that Trump touches as garbage, but I’ll admit I find this administration to be comprised of a lot of people I don’t like. If the Hill-dog had won and offered pro-Trump folks a job, would you take it? Even if the job were guarding her private email server? :P

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ If the Hill-dog had won and offered pro-Trump folks a job, would you take it?
I am not a Trump supporter, so if I were offered a cushy job in an affiliate company or whatever that was supporting her, so long as I did not have to go on the stump for her, or defend her, show me my check. Don’t cry for money because it won’t cry for you, it is just a tool that is utilized for goods and services. Do you still buy oil that came from Uncle Sam’s good friends the Saudis when 18 of the 19 9/11 attackers were their citizens, let’s see how deep people’s loyalty will go to make sure the fuel in their vehicle came from a source other than Saudi Arabia.

ragingloli's avatar

Why not take the money, funnel it directly into anti-Drumpf organisations, and then summarily ignore any contractual stipulations limiting my freedom of speech?

Cruiser's avatar

I made a very similar promise to not bad mouth Hillary and that didn’t stop me! BWAAA HAA HAAAA…. (Takes the money and runs)

SecondHandStoke's avatar

If free money is being offered it would be better to speak to the Sanders set as opposed to the anti-Trump set.

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