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flo's avatar

Is experience by definition, lived?

Asked by flo (12587points) February 4th, 2019

So, what are people who use that term thinking? Is/are there another kind of experience/s?

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Hawaii_Jake's avatar

No, I can watch another’s experience, read about it, or hear about it.

flo's avatar

I can see the watch part.

KNOWITALL's avatar

Imo, we learn all our lives by not only experience but by observation.

I’m not the President, do not have his knowledge about things like national security, so I try not to comment much on the job they do.

As far as parenting, I’m an adult with no children, so 46 years of observation of family, friends, etc…seems to me I have some great knowledge but I’ve been told here I dont. So I dont answer those questions now.

To me, its like book smarts vs street smarts.

flo's avatar

@KNOWITALL If you’ve babysat or been a guardian to your family and friends chidren you do have experince with children. I would start answering those kinds of questions though.

flo's avatar

@Hawaii_Jake and @Hawaii_Jake I didn’t get an Activity For You for your answers.

flo's avatar

@Hawaii_Jake I didn’t get “Activity For You” top right of screen

(Questions for You…new )

Messages for You ( ...new)

Activity for You said ”(0 new)” eventhough I had answers from you and @KOWITALL.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@flo Nah, not worth the snark, but thanks.

flo's avatar

@KNOWITALL You mean you’re not going to start answering children related questions? Ok.

flo's avatar

Why let people censor you though.

kritiper's avatar

”...by definition…” Yes. “experience… 1. The actual living through an event or events; actual enjoyment or suffering; hence, the effect upon the judgment or feelings produced by personal and direct impressions; ...” -from Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary, 1960 ed.

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Zissou's avatar

One might argue that it is redundant, but I think the phase lived experience may be intended to emphasize experience that is gained through actual day-to-day living in the real world. So for example, one might learn about cancer by doing experiments in a laboratory, or one might learn about cancer by having the disease. The researcher and the patient both have experience dealing with cancer. The phrase lived experience might be used to distinguish the latter kind of experience from the former and possibly to suggest that the latter is more authentic.

Edit: Google lived experience for more.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Experience is earned through observation. It is tasted. It’s felt. It’s smelled. It is endured by pain, and suffering. It is forever etched into our core, like it or not.

Experience can brighten the dullest parts of souls, or expose weaknesses in the most intimidating.

Experience, is essentially knowledge. Knowledge is power.

It can be gained by personal “experience,” but some can be pulled from reading, or seeing other’s predicaments.

flo's avatar

The experience of reading about them, the experience of watching them dying or surviving cancer hearing an interview about them, studying things in a lab (cancer for example) ...these things are not experiencing them.

Either I’m a victim of an accident or the cause of an accident, or I’m watching the accident, or I’m only watching someone watch the accident. The only person with tthe experience (i.e the only one who can answer “yes” to “Have you ever experienced an accident is the victim.
@Zissou You better not say “I’m dealing with cancer” to anyone because they would rightfully believe that you have cancer. “I’m researching I researched cancer” causes no confusion.

@MrGrimm888 The experience of observation is not like experiencing it. Would you hire a babysitter (or whatever else) with 1 year experience or someone who only read and watched it her/ his whole life? My OP is just about the term lived , that there is no need to use the term lived

Zissou's avatar

Reading about cancer is second-hand experience, i.e., it is gaining knowledge from someone else’s experience. Laboratory work is first-hand experience. i.e., the researcher gains knowledge from her own experience, not someone else’s. That’s what the experimental method in science is all about: gaining knowledge through controlled experience. It is not the same kind of first-hand experience as undergoing the disease, but it is first-hand experience nonetheless. That’s why it’s called primary research. An experienced researcher might very well know more about cancer than the patient, though the researcher does not know what the patient knows, or does not know it in the same way.

Yes, it might cause confusion for the researcher to say “I’m dealing with cancer” if the context doesn’t make clear what she is talking about, so I probably shouldn’t have put it that way. But the researcher can still honestly say that her knowledge of cancer is based on relevant experience.

I think the phrase lived experience has become a kind boilerplate in certain kinds of discourse, but I’m not going to get into that (Google it if you’re interested).

flo's avatar

To edit to add to my last post:
..The person who caused the let’s say a car accident if he/she is also a victim, experienced an accident.

flo's avatar

@Zissou 1)Re. “It is not the same kind of first-hand experience as undergoing the disease, but it is first-hand experience nonetheless.” It’s first hand experience in something else, not at all in having cancer.

2)” But the researcher can still honestly say that her knowledge of cancer is based on relevant experience.” So the statement would be “I have relevant experience in researching it.” right?

Zissou's avatar

We might say it’s experience with cancer, not experience of cancer, if you like. But that may be the kind of distinction that people are trying to get at when they use the expression lived experience.

flo's avatar

@Zissou Except it could, and does lead to mistakes, It’s misleading, confusing etc.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@flo . I have been called one of the best at several crafts. It all started with NO experience. “The longest journey begins with but a single footstep.”...

flo's avatar

@MrGrimm888 We’re miscommunicating. We’re not referring to the same thing.

ltoban's avatar

To “live” means that you are doing what you love, passionate about or being purposeful. To “experience” means that you learning how to live by exploration.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^I disagree with your translations.

Living, is surviving. Experience is what you get on your journey though life.

My interpretation of the original Q may be flawed. As I read it, and react, my answer is yes. Experience can only be gained by actually going through something, personally…We can learn some things through study, or observation, but there is no substitute for actually doing something.

ltoban's avatar

@MrGrimm888 Living is surviving? I disagree. I believe that waking up everyday shouldn’t be a means of survival, but doing something intentionally to bring about positive change in one’s life, community, city, state and/or world. If one is “surviving,” one is unable to acknowledge or recognize the purpose in existence and will wake up (if granted another day) to merely “survive” and not “thrive.”

MrGrimm888's avatar

^That’s more of your personal perspective on life, than fact. It’s nice to be optimistic, but most people do just wake up, go to work, pay bills, repeat.

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