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Thoughts on the high altitude objects we are shooting down?

Asked by Ltryptophan (12091points) February 11th, 2023 from iPhone

Over the past week the US shot down three objects. The first we learned about was a spy balloon. Now, two more objects with hardly any description are being recovered in Canada.

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jca2's avatar

Scary.

janbb's avatar

I believe all kinds of spying is going on all the time so this doesn’t shake me up much.

chyna's avatar

I think they are getting sloppy in their spying.

gorillapaws's avatar

@janbb “I believe all kinds of spying is going on all the time so this doesn’t shake me up much.”

Exactly this.

Dig_Dug's avatar

Perhaps there’s something in the balloons that’s raining down in our air that will poison us or maybe nanobots that will infiltrate our systems and destroy us from the inside. Would make a cool SyFy movie anyway.

ragingloli's avatar

I think there have always been those flying objects/spycraft, and governments have known of them, and they are just now starting to shoot them down because the public now know of them.

kritiper's avatar

More North Korean hijinks.

seawulf575's avatar

I saw an article today that Justin Trudeau claims this last one we shot down was over Canadian air space at the time we shot it down. If that is the case then Biden has to deal with more incompetence.

jca2's avatar

This is the first sentence of today’s NY Times article on the subject of the third object shot down:

“An American fighter jet, acting on the orders of President Biden and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada, shot down another unidentified flying object on Saturday, Canadian and American officials said.”

zenvelo's avatar

@seawulf575 To what incompetence are you referring? It didn’t come in over US airspace, it came from over the Arctic Ocean.

@kritiper It occurred to me this morning that these very well may be Korean items, and Kim is just trying to increase tensions between the US and China.

chyna's avatar

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of “an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace.”

“Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object,” he tweeted. Source : ABC News.

zenvelo's avatar

A fourth object was just shot down over Lake Huron. This is getting goofy.

Dig_Dug's avatar

@zenvelo Okay that is getting a little close to home and I’m not very comfortable with that! We (USA) needs to do something about this and fast. Time to put up or shut-up! Stop being reactive and become PROACTIVE. You think China or Russia would let us get away with this shit? Hell no!

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Ya ~~ ~ ~ let’s start lobbing cruise missiles ! J.K.

Do you know who is sending the balloons @Dig_Dug ?

Dig_Dug's avatar

@Tropical_Willie We need to confirm who it is by inspecting the balloon debris which I could assume they have done that by now.

chyna's avatar

This is scary. I hope they aren’t carrying a disease like the plague or polio.

Locke's avatar

Is this just one of those media things where this actually happens all the time but it’s just not reported? Or are they just shooting at everything to be safe because of the attention the first balloon got?

jca2's avatar

@Locke Supposedly it happend during Trump’s presidency, too, but he was too lackadaisical to do anything about it.

seawulf575's avatar

I think we need to stop shooting them down and find a way to bring one down without damage. Throw a weighted net over it or something like that. Bring the whole thing down intact. You then could actually figure out what they are, where they are from, what they are doing, and you wouldn’t have to waste a bunch of money getting rid of them. You could re-use the net.

basstrom188's avatar

Balloon debris that sounds familiar

KNOWITALL's avatar

@seawulf575 Yes. Or get a military skydiver to infiltrate one and bring it down whole.

chyna's avatar

^Maybe it’s just me being paranoid, but I keep worrying that there is some kind of disease or poison powder like ricin in the balloons.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@chyna Me too but that’s what our military does. I’d prefer it to be aliens though. :)

smudges's avatar

@chyna That is a sobering thought. It could be embedded in the material that the balloon – or whatever the other things are – is made of. I don’t think Biden acted too late at all. Imagine if it was embedded with ricin or a newly developed biological weapon and he had ok’d it to be shot down over Montana. If it was a bio weapon it would just be a matter of time before the entire U.S., and possibly Canada and Mexico were infected. Large numbers of people could be dead before an antidote or vaccine was developed.

On the other hand, if the balloon or other flying objects were slowly releasing a bio weapon as they drifted over land, then maybe he didn’t act soon enough. :\

chyna's avatar

I hope they find out soon.

KRD's avatar

We are going into a war with the balloons.

Locke's avatar

My friend said this is all to distract from the chemical leak in Ohio, which is on a grander scale and more serious than the media is letting on. I don’t know if that’s true, but of the two stories, I think what’s happening in Ohio is more disturbing: https://abcnews.go.com/US/toxic-chemicals-train-derailed-ohio-originally-reported-data/story?id=97080179

Dig_Dug's avatar

^^ Yep this is getting close to home. I hope the winds blow towards Pittsburgh.

seawulf575's avatar

@chyna I was worried about some toxic or biological issue from these things, but then I thought about it a little bit more. It is a really odd way to deliver such a thing. Very undependable at actually getting it where you want it. And with the air currents at that elevation you might end up getting it back in your own face.

smudges's avatar

^^ But the micro-bacteria could have teeny tiny weighted parachutes designed to bring them straight down to earth. hehehehe

KRD's avatar

@Locke no wonder why Ohio is nuts. Lets send the balloons over Ohio.

MrGrimm888's avatar

I live VERY close to where they shot down the “first” one. I’m not a fan. I’m pissed. Guess I won’t fish in our salt water for a while…
There was no warning either….WTF?..
Just in case it did have something dangerous in it, it would have been nice to know “hey, we’re shooting down a Chinese spy balloon the size of three busses, in your backyard.”

All we have been told is “don’t touch the debris, if you find some.” Then. They parked a fucking hovercraft on the beach, and taped it off. It wasn’t as if it was far out from land either. A LOT of people saw it from the ground, as it fell…

Dig_Dug's avatar

@KRD And make Ohio even more nuts?

KRD's avatar

^If the Chinese what to see something then they should go over Ohio.

smudges's avatar

@KRD Sorry, but what’s wrong with Ohio and why the digs?

zenvelo's avatar

So it turns out that other than the balloon shot down off the coast of south Carolina, the objects are not Chinese. And they weren’t spy craft.

chyna's avatar

@smudges I think he is referring to the train derailment in Ohio that was carrying toxic chemicals. It’s in the river now and has killed a lot of fish. It’s already got to my state via the river and is only about a half hour away from my home.

smudges's avatar

^^ OK, I get it. Thanks!

MrGrimm888's avatar

I’m sure there are plenty of great people in Ohio….

I’ve just only met like 5 though…~

Dig_Dug's avatar

@MrGrimm888 There are some really GREAT people in Ohio!

MrGrimm888's avatar

^I Said 5. That’s “some.”...~

Dig_Dug's avatar

^ Yeah I thought I wrote “lots” my bad. lol

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