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Cruiser's avatar

In the Bible, who is "Us"?

Asked by Cruiser (40401points) June 9th, 2010

Genesis 1:1 opens up with “And God said, Let us make man in our image”...

Who is this “Us”?? I have always thought of God as a singular being or entity…I never before caught on there could be an “Us” of more than one God!?!

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CMaz's avatar

In short:
God speaks of Himself in the language of men, that he may be clearly understood by men.

Long version

janbb's avatar

Was that from the King James version of the Bible? I suspect the usage is the “Royal We”; i.e., Queen Victoria’s statement, “We are not amused.”

Facade's avatar

I’d say the Trinity- Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Cruiser's avatar

@janbb I checked them all and except for an occasional switching of “And God said” with “Then God said” they were all the same.

janbb's avatar

Interesting. It would be worth finding a Biblical scholar to theorize then.

Cruiser's avatar

@janbb @ChazMaz‘s link does just that it seems.

janbb's avatar

Cool. Just looked at it quickly and most seem to say that it is used to imply majesty.

Val123's avatar

I’ve wondered about that myself!

zenele's avatar

We were sitting around in the Galactic Cafe, as we usually do on Friday afternoons, when all of a sudden, out of the blue, in the middle of the backgammon game, He says to me: Let us make man in our image… I said “what? – “what you on, your lordship?” (he likes to think he’s some kinda cosmic hotshot that guy) He goes on, “no really, I have this idea…”

Do I get credit even though most of you look like me? Nyet.
Do I get any royalties? Nope.

But hey, in the bible he wrote “us” – well thanks a bunch!

Val123's avatar

Not needed, @zenele.

zenele's avatar

We’re in social, @Val123. To each his own.

Val123's avatar

Just because it’s social doesn’t automatically give people the right to be rude and disrespectful.

zenele's avatar

How am I being rude and disrespectful, oh miss val?

I actually believe in God – and He doesn’t mind a little humour.

If I have offended anyone who didn’t like my sense of humour, which was not directed at anyone, obviously, I apologize.

Val – you can kiss my ass. That was rude and disrespectful.

Cruiser's avatar

@zenele This quote is from your book, the old testament…what say you about “us”??

zenele's avatar

It’s not my book, or anyone’s book. I read what the others wrote – and their interpretation is probably correct. Who knows? It was written 5000 years ago – over hundreds of years – by many people – right?

For those who think God wrote the Old Testament himself – then, yes, he probably used the royal We/Us.

Cool?

Val123's avatar

Part of me was always wondering if God was referring to his Mom when he said, “Us.” I don’t know why! But there it is.

CMaz's avatar

Us, as in Toys R’.

BoBo1946's avatar

When God is referred to in the singular such as I, it is showing the being of God as the only God. When it is in the plural he is revealing something personal of his nature.

Gen. 3:22:” And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,” us is indicative of number; the word one is also the word echad meaning to unite.

Two sources, if you want the links, will be happy to provide same!

Val123's avatar

@BoBo1946 Interesting! Thanks!

BoBo1946's avatar

Loll.. God would have to have a great sense of humor to look down on this (being Earth) clamaity!

ucme's avatar

“What if god was one of”.........ahem..err..yeah, excuse my singing, carry on.

BoBo1946's avatar

@Val123 very welcome my friend!

Val123's avatar

@BoBo1946 I so agree! Although, sometimes I do have to say “THAT WASN’T FUNNY, GOD!!”

BoBo1946's avatar

@ChazMaz LOLL..Us, as in Toys R’....that was cool!

BoBo1946's avatar

@Val123 for sure…not everything down here would be an amusement for anyone! Sure glad he has lots of patience and mercy! That would be patience with me and LOTS of mercy!

Aster's avatar

FWIW, The founder of the Mormon church, Joseph Smith, said that the original meaning of the verse was , “the Gods created.” So he taught that there are many gods who reign over different planets.
You have to research the original meanings which is not easy.

Val123's avatar

@zenele BTW…that should have been ”Dutchess…you can kiss my ass” and you know it!!!

ucme's avatar

@zenele Perish the thought.

zenele's avatar

@Val123 You caught me off guard before – I didn’t mean that. Sorry.

Now you can kiss my ass, dutchess.

Trillian's avatar

@Cruiser As I was given to understand it, “us” referred to God and his angels. The ranks of Cherubim and Seraphim. There is a whole lot left out of the bible that is picked up in Sumerian lore which covers the revolt on the Heavenly plane and the fall of certain of the Angels. Those fallen ones are what we know today as“demons”. It has been further postulated that many of those fallen ones desired the worship of man and revealed themselves to various groups as gods in order to gain worship. Some of their names are Ba’al, Molech, Vishnu, Kali. If you recognize the names, consider what it would mean if this were true. I have no proof of these assertions but I can point you towards some good reference material if your interest extends that far.

CMaz's avatar

“referred to God and his angels.”

Yea, God needs help.

zenele's avatar

Ba’al, as in Ba’al Shem Tov means owner of a good name (also husband); Molech is King. Vishnu and Kali sound – Indian?

Val123's avatar

@zenele LOL! That GA was from me! LOL!

Trillian's avatar

@zenele This is correct and scholars have noted this. Here is one link of many that gives a little more in-depth study. And yes, Vishnu and Kali are both Indian.

Val123's avatar

Very interesting link @Trillian.

CMaz's avatar

I just spun by Beatles album backwards.

“Us” is the Walrus.

Goo goo g’joob g’goo goo g’joob.

Trillian's avatar

This coming from the nipple head who likes Cherry 2000! Shut up and go get me a Pepsi!

CMaz's avatar

How can you not like Cherry 2000. As far as a robot goes. ;-)

And, “us”, nipple heads only provide breast milk. So suck away.

RareDenver's avatar

Is it not just like the royal ‘We’ ?

filmfann's avatar

My Revised Standard Version says: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
My King James says “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth”
According to my study Bible, “The form of the word (God) is plural, indicating plentitude of power and majesty and allowing for the New Testament revelation of the triunity of the Godhead.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

On this forum I am RERRL. On others I am QuinticNon. My Muzza calls me Baby, and my Baby calls me LuvBear. My children call me Pappa. My Pappa calls me Son. And the guy I just beat to the gas pump called me Ass Hole.

God is many different things to many different people. And You are just like Us.

Trillian's avatar

@ChazMaz I almost inadvertently took us to the other thread about breastfeeding a father. Doh!

Cruiser's avatar

I’m even more confused now….thanks everybody!

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Oh no… It is “US” who should be thanking you. :-)

BoBo1946's avatar

@Cruiser hey man…i will talk with Him tonight and get back with you!

Val123's avatar

@BoBo1946 Tell Him I said Hi! And remind him about that new car I asked Him for…

BoBo1946's avatar

@Val123 for those things, consult Benny Hinn..loll In this video, he cannot look the guy in eye! Not saying that cannot happen…but, if Billy Graham could not do it, don’t think it can be done!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8B4NwI07pI

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

That’s an interesting video. Trust me, I’m not a Hinn fan, and I’m not sticking up for him. But…

You will notice that Hinn consistently looks to the left (our right) when answering the questions. This indicates that he is indeed telling the truth from memory. But later in the video when asked about the “confidentiality agreement”, he looks up and over to the right (our left), and this indicates a lie.

Check this web site for more info on lies in the eyes.

Then go see which way George Busch looks when talking about weapons of mass destruction.

Cruiser's avatar

@BoBo1946 Ok sir…whatch got for me?? ;)

GODincenter's avatar

Here US means. Me (My mind , Intelect and Ego) and my soul(HIM /Lord/Part of Lord).
As GOD exist within us/Me. That is why He is mine and I am his. He can be of many, but I can only be his only spiritually speaking.

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