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For Christians: How would you describe the innocence of Jesus?

Asked by Ltryptophan (10280points) June 14th, 2011

We believe Him to be the Creator. If anyone understands how innocence works on a God scale I would love to be enlightened.

I am sure there must be a lot written about this since people surely blame God for much.

He is certainly responsible for everything. That is where I think people must get hung up. The snag is that since He created knowing the difficulties ahead, how could He be so brutal as to let them come anyway. The answer is that the payoff far exceeds the tribulations.

But I am sincerely interested in understanding the innocence of God. Which I think is important to understand.

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athenasgriffin's avatar

I don’t really think we can judge God or Jesus using human standards. I certainly don’t think that God deserves to be blamed for our failings.

sarahtalkpretty's avatar

If you believe in the Trinity the roles of the Father and Son are entities to be considered separately. Just as a man might have a concurrent role as a Father and a Son and be the same person but in different capacities, Jesus was not the Father. He was the Word made flesh which means He was/is the incarnation and fulfillment of the prophesy that a Savior would be born. So, He was born and He did come to save the world from sin (please play along even if you don’t believe..) but He was murdered for that very thing. He wasn’t innocent in the sense that a child is innocent. He had knowledge of the world. He had a message which was the Truth (if you believe). He brought us peace and He was crucified for being a liar, which He was not – therefore He is innocent.

The question of why God needed HIs Son to be sacrificed, is so hard for me to explain but it has it’s roots in the Hebrew tradition of animal sacrifice. Non-Christians often try to use that to discredit Christianity, but I think they’re either misleading or not understanding why the foreshadowing in rituals that predate Jesus are totally accepted and part of the faith. Basically I think that the one thing we all understand on a very viceral level is blood and death. He did say “come on and follow me” but they killed Him and that’s part of the reason why we’re talking about Him today 2000 years later…

Hibernate's avatar

I don’t think we are capable of understanding the innocence factor [ or any other for that matter ] when it comes to our brother.

whitenoise's avatar

First of all… I must add that I am not a Christian. So keep that in mind while reading my reflection on the ‘cultural / religious figure’ that I have become to know.

My interpretation of Jezus’ innocence is that he was born w/o the inherited burden the rest of mankind has been born with since Adam and Eve’s fall to sin in paradise.

In many other senses, I believe Jezus was not innocent at all. I think he had a clear agenda to change the world to what he saw as to the better. His message of a loving, forgiving God was quite revolutionary. Many people in his days must have seen him as a heretic that needed to be prosecuted.

He clearly had ideals and was willing to die for them. In that sense he definitely was not innocent and from my view saying he was takes away from his sacrifice for a better world.

Roby's avatar

If Jesus came to the world to die for our sins. Everything in the scenario had to come to pass for the prophecy to be fulfilled. My question is: What if they found no fault in him and he was found innocent and sent on his way? Also did the ones who killed him go to hell for the prophecy to be fullfilled?

chewhorse's avatar

I don’t think he was innocent at all, I think he had to fight for everything he believed in and fulfilled.. His fight came from within, not without.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

First off I am going to tackle the “why does God let bad things come anyway” bit. God gives man free will. If God didn’t give you free will people would bitch about that, they would say how come God can’t be more hands-off. Bad things happen because God isn’t micro managing every person’s life or every situation. It would be as if you had a son, you tell him “Son, that is a skunk, don’t play with it”, but every time you turn your back your son sneaks over to try and pet the skunk, when he gets a stinky blast to the face who can he blame? You warned him, you told him to stay way, about the only other choice if you could not rid the skunk for whatever reason maybe in the neighbor’s yard and he don’t like trespassers was to lock your son in his room. By not wanting to make him a prisoner in his room and trusting he would head your warning you let him roam the yard free. He didn’t listen, went were you told him not to and now he is stinky by his own actions; wasn’t your fault. That is why it is not God’s fault.

God is innocent because He surely can’t sin against Himself, anymore than us people can be racist to ourselves.

filmfann's avatar

He was the Unmarked Lamb.

Ltryptophan's avatar

Is Innocent a relevant word when dealing with God? I can see how as God there would be a different standard. If a mistake is impossible for God then innocence is meaningless. Or maybe it is His greatest characteristic. The title “He who never fails” is certainly not inglorious!

If God’s innocence is paramount to His very Being, then creations problems are necessary.

mattbrowne's avatar

I don’t think he saw himself as innocent. He knew he was a radical reformer. But it was for a good cause.

Schroedes13's avatar

As many others have said, God cannot be held to the standards of man. This is totally my opinion, based on the theology and doctrine that I believe and have studied. But if we were to regards Jesus by the standards of man, He was completely innocent up until He was nailed on the cross and he cried “Father, Father, why have you forsaken me?” At this moment, the sins of all of mankind were put unto Jesus and He died in the fashion of an ancient animal sacrifice. The idea that an offering’s blood must be shed in order to absolve those of the party offering the sacrifice. God offered the sacrifice of His Son for mankind. So Jesus was both innocent and guilty.

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