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Am I correct that no manufacturer makes a wall "toaster oven" that fits in with the cabinetry?

Asked by JLeslie (65191points) May 20th, 2014

I know GE makes the Advantium oven and KitchenAid makes a small wall oven that microwaves and is also a convection oven, but does not have a broil setting, so you cannot broil nor can you toast in it obviously.

Why has no one thought to make a decent quality toaster oven that matches a regular wall oven? Both the Advantium and KitchenAid mentioned above are shorter in height than a typical oven. The KitchenAid is about the size of a large toaster oven on the interior, while the exterior matches the width of a typical wall oven, so you can make “double” oven that would look very nice on the wall. Add the microwave to the same unit and it woud save space and cost hopefully.

Would you be interested in a small wall oven that works like a toaster oven? I use my toaster oven every day. Less electricity, less heat in the kitchen. I bake cakes, pizzas, toast bagels, I do almost everything in it.

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LuckyGuy's avatar

Can you touch the outside of your toaster over when it has been running?
Does yours get as hot as mine?
Mine (Black and Decker, Convection) needs plenty of room around it.

JLeslie's avatar

@LuckyGuy My toaster oven gets hot as well, it would need to be adapted for the wall. Insulated and vented and whatever else. Doesn’t seem like a big deal. It’s basically what KitchenAid makes already with a broiler element added.

dappled_leaves's avatar

Insulating and venting are at odds with each other. This is part of the problem.

JLeslie's avatar

@dappled_leaves Why is it different than any wall oven or microwave? Adding a top element makes that much differences?

JLeslie's avatar

Here is the KitchenAid[KBHS109BSS-403349/KBHS109BSS/ model I am referring to. I think Bosch makes a similar model, probably others do too. Maybe one has a broil and toast feature, and I just am not aware of it.

marinelife's avatar

I think the problem is that toaster ovens need venting thus they must be open to the air at the back.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

@JLeslie It would be very hard to make one like that and it meet code. Many people unintentionally violate code when they install one of those microwave combo deals themselves and put it in the wrong location/height.

JLeslie's avatar

I am totally confused. I don’t understand where most of you are in your thought process. I must not be communicating well.

I don’t understand why KitchenAid, GE, Viking, you name the brand, does not make a wall oven that has a broiler element that can be on at the same time as the bake element do it can toast. It needs to be small enough so it doesn’t take forever for the bread to toast. They already make wall ovens small enough, they just don’t put a broiler element in them. The ovens are already made for the wall.

jca's avatar

It’s got to have something to do with the high heat that a broiler requires vs. the small size that something uninsulated has.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Toaster ovens & broiler elements work off of the same principle: resistive heat. There is literally no difference between the two as far as operation. Practically a broiler is just a large toaster oven. You simply cannot fit something as powerful as a full size broiler in a toaster oven and it be safe.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

700 * F and wood cabinets do not play well together. The cabinets catch fire. The toaster ovens have no insulation, so the heat is going somewhere. When on the kitchen counter is goew into the air.

If you are looking for a broiler oven get a wall oven with two ovens, they are insulated and are intended to go in wall / cabinet.

ibstubro's avatar

I have never understood the concept of the “toaster oven”. Not that I’ve never had one available, but that I never understood why it was popular and an “appliance”? How many other appliances will be in your kitchen that serve the same purpose/s?

You toast in the [bagel wide] toaster. You bake (better) in the oven. The hell is a “toaster oven” for? And honestly, who cares if it matches anything. The new “toaster ovens” are practically disposable.

jca's avatar

I don’t use a toaster oven because the few times I did (at work), it seems to be a very fast ride from baking to almost setting off the fire alarm burnt.

JLeslie's avatar

@ARE_you_kidding_me @Tropical_Willie Regular wall ovens have broilers, why is it any different?

Toast means both elements are on at once. If you just broil a piece of bread then you have to flip it over to toast it.

@ibstubro It is my most used appliance besides the stove top. I have a toaster ven that has convection bake and room for an average sized frozen pizza. I also can fit an 8” square pan. I use the toaster oven 9.5 times out of 10 when I need to bake or broil. It’s just my husband and I so I rarely bake or broil in a larger pan. I make everything in there, lasagna, brownies, chicken, pork roast, roast peppers (top and bottom at once) everything.

As far as toast, I don’t have to worry about how thick the bread is and I don’t have any trouble getting a small piece out of the oven. It does take longer to toast in a large toaster oven than a regular toaster. I also make cheese sandwiches just do it open face and the bottom toast and the cheese melts. I can brown the cheese easily if I want.

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