Social Question

stanleybmanly's avatar

Who here believes the President’s remarks unworthy of Congressional reproof?

Asked by stanleybmanly (20072points) 1 month ago from iPhone

I’m talking about “ go back where you came from”

Observing members: 0 Composing members: 0

55 Answers

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I don’t think they’re unworthy. But I can see trump throwing a temper tantrum over the reprooof. “WHAT PART OF I AM THE PRESIDENT DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND! WHAT PART OF I AM A GENIUS DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?! YOU CAN’T CRITICIZE ANYTHING I DO!!! EVERY THING I DO IS RIGHT!!!”

mazingerz88's avatar

I don’t think it’s about just that single remark at this point. You deal with cancer by treating it.

LadyMarissa's avatar

I don’t find it unworthy of Congressional reproof; however, I do find it unworthy of a MAGA president!!! I don’t consider bad mouthing everyone who disagrees with you as having anything to do with Making America Great Again…more MTGN (Make Trump Great ‘Now)

KNOWITALL's avatar

I’m still processing and havent watched it myself for context, but right now I do find it worthy of reprimand. If someone said that to me, for trying to foment positive change, I’d be very upset.

Response moderated
elbanditoroso's avatar

This president is not a real president. He’s a buffoon, unqualified, unintelligent, incompetent, lying, deceptive, irresponsible idiot.

Given that, what he said is entirely within character for him.

Response moderated
Response moderated
MrGrimm888's avatar

It would be hard to polish this recent turd. Spin doctors have it hard nowadays, when everything is recorded, or tweeted.

Response moderated
LuckyGuy's avatar

In case you have not seen the tweets or heard the comments,, here they are as discussed by Stephen Colbert..

ucme's avatar

Oh just slap him across his wide face until the fat stops wobbling & be done with it.

LostInParadise's avatar

What I don’t understand is why people are not making more of a fuss over Trump’s new executive order , which would essentially eliminate legal migration from south of the border.

Inspired_2write's avatar

@LuckyGuy Great video Colbert nailed it! Thanks for the entertaining moment.

Inspired_2write's avatar

Just like a parent who correct bad behavior in there children so will Congress address Trump. It is like Congress is the Responsible parent in charge of an out of control adolescent.

It seems that the world is tiring of Trump so that is why he is saying outrageous things in the media ( free advertising for his campaign ).

For Trump is all about keeping himself in the Media camera lenses.

It is incredible and shameful to have a person such as Trump in charge of a whole country!

He seems to want to be impeached as he knows that it would tie up the legal system and give him time to do more damage.

Peloski was right, much better to wait until he is booted out of Office,THEN go after him because he then has less or no power to counterattack.

And I bet that the media will turn there backs on him after that too?

LadyMarissa's avatar

There’s an old saying…the ONLY bad press is NO press at all. He thrives on attention much like a troll does. When we don’t give him that attention, he creates controversy so he can get his much needed fix!!!

KNOWITALL's avatar

Here’s a link to CNN Fact Check regarding Omar’s past statements. In light of past comments, I understand Trump’s comments a bit more.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/politics/trump-falsely-accuses-omar-al-qaeda-fact-check/index.html

It is possible to argue that Omar was making light of al Qaeda’s crimes in suggesting that its name itself is what makes people recoil, or that she was implying that there is an equivalence between al Qaeda and the US army. But accusing her of praising al Qaeda is simply inaccurate.

Trump also made reference on Monday to another set of comments from Omar. In March, she told the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) advocacy group that average Muslim Americans need to “raise hell” to stand up for the civil liberties they had lost because “some people did something” on 9/11. Trying to quietly demonstrate good behavior is insufficient, she said.

And another on the Jewish issue:
Omar, along with Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., the only other Muslim woman in Congress, have been criticized by Republicans and Democrats for comments about the Israeli government and the influence of pro-Israel lobbyists in Washington, and accused them of evoking anti-Semitic tropes.
Omar has apologized for some of her comments, but defended her criticism of the Israeli government.

WHAT OMAR SAID: In January, Omar was criticized for a (deleted) 2012 tweet where she said Israel “has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel,” after the 2012 conflict with Hamas in Gaza. She defended the comments, saying she was criticizing the military action by Israel.

A few weeks later, Omar was at a progressive event in Washington where she said pro-Israel activists pushed “allegiance to a foreign country,” in an effort to clarify her initial comments.

“I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is OK for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country,” Omar said, immediately prompting criticism that she was evoking stereotypes about “dual loyalty,” a trope seen as anti-Semitic but also associated historically with other immigrant groups.

(MORE: House to vote to condemn anti-Semitism in indirect rebuke)
In March, the House passed a resolution condemning anti-Semitism, racism and bigotry in response to Omar’s comments, though some Democrats were angry that it didn’t mention the congresswoman by name.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-falsely-claims-rep-omar-praised-al/story?id=64349788

Patty_Melt's avatar

Absolutely critical whenever making judgments regarding elected officials, or really anyone, to not rely on the comedy sketches of poison minded individuals for the facts.
If someone made a generalization about all of “these people” should go back where they came from, I would call that a big mistake which requires action. But, when looking at a statement about one individual, or a specific small group, where the comment is in regards to the words or actions of the individual(s) being dangerous, potentially dangerous, or counter productive, I would say this is an opinion supportable by solid fact. Scrutiny would only further public support from those who previously heard only tarnished accounts of that opinion.

In simpler terms, he was only calling out a bad apple. The more attention called to the matter, the more people will back his accusations.

@KNOWITALL, I too checked deeper than faux bearer Colbert.

@all, please bear with me on posts I make and edits I have to deal with. I am breaking in a new phone. It is a better one, it is all over with spellchecking. It is adding untyped spaces and letters which then convert to entirely different wording.
If my posts appear to have a strange jumble of letters,give me time to make edits.

janbb's avatar

@KNOWITALL I haven’t followed Omar’s comments at all but as a Jewish person, I want to go on record that I do not see all criticism of Israel as anti-Semitism. That can be a convenient flag to wave and there certainly is anti-Semitism around but Israel’s government and policies are fair game for criticism just as any so-called Christian nation can be criticized.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@janbb Perhaps you can check the other thread regarding criticism of AOC. @JLeslie seems to have found Omar’s words offensive. They are posted there for you to see if you choose.

@Patty_Melt I’m not a Colbert fan, and if I do watch, it’s for comedy rather than political insight.
To me that’s like Reps watching Fox and thinking you know all sides.
Good for you, you smarty-pants! :)

elbanditoroso's avatar

Omar being obtuse and wrong does not excuse Trump being a disgrace.

janbb's avatar

@KNOWITALL Thanks but I don’t go looking to be offended by more things than I already am! :-) I’m sure you know that what offends one member of a religion may not offend another. Politicians make a mistake when they think all members of a group will react the same way.

LostInParadise's avatar

How did Trump offend with his remarks? Let me count the ways. Firstly, he thinks that disagreeing with his actions is un-American. Freedom of speech, who needs it? Then he assumes that criticizing his policies means that the person is not only un-American but is dissatisfied with living in America. Then he uses the familiar racist trope of telling people to go back to where they came from. All four women are U.S. citizens and for 3 of the 4, where they came from is here in the U.S. of A. There is no other place that they came from. This is particularly loathsome in a country where a significant part of the population is no more than third generation American. By insulting descendants of immigrants, Trump is insulting everyone. Even if some of Omar’s remarks were lacking in diplomacy, there is nothing that she said that compares with the offensiveness of Trump’s remarks.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@LostInParadise Then none of you should vote for him, it’s all good. haha!

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Telling anyone to go back where they came from is crude and yes. Racist. It’s like telling 5th generation African Americans to go back to Africa.

Patty_Melt's avatar

There’s the thing. It is not necessarily racist,but got used so heavily in that way it is commonly viewed as such.

If a kid was in your house, and starts some guff with your kid,to send them home is not ot racist. If you were at a public park,and some bully is starting trouble with a few little ones, to send them home is not racist. There are instances when saying go back to your origins is maybe bossy, but not racist by any definition.
Many American born citizens want to visit “home” so is that racist? Of course not.
Peeps be triggering much too easily.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Of course it depends on the context @Patty_Melt. What trump saidl, tho, can’t be compared to an adult telling a bully child to go home. For one thing they are AT home. He meant it to be insulting, and it was because he’s a pin headed moron.

Patty_Melt's avatar

Well,one of the women pointed out the obvious.Trump does not wrap himself in exclusivity, but those women do. They won’t even let Pelosi in their vicious little America haters club. It is EXACTLY telling a bully to go home.
You should check out people more closely before you decide who to follow.

@KNOWITALL, the women in your link are spot on.

Patty_Melt's avatar

https://youtu.be/BGbo9EXWGcI

What happens when people think they know, without checking.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Are you kidding me @Patty_Melt? Did you mean what you just said?

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Patty_Melt I love Steve Harvey, thanks for sharing that!

Patty_Melt's avatar

I mean everything I say.
I watched that video, and then the one Steve referenced, when he and trump faced the media together.
His expression was as described. Trump was simply answering what questions were being hurled at him.
He should have made some remark that he was currently discussing some potential HUD ideas with Steve they would be interested in hearing. His failure to do that hurt them both.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Just saw this “The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission cites the phrase President Trump recently used against four congresswomen as workplace harassment.”

He is SUCH a loser. He spends all of his time trying to figure out what he can do or say next to be one of the “popular kids.”

Patty_Melt's avatar

Loser, opinion, not fact.
Do you have a book that has been on the best seller list?
Have you ever been on the who’s who list?
Do you have people in every US state who would a assemble in large crowds to hear you speak?
How many of your kids run their own companies?
How many people would trust you to be the leader of their homeland?
How many jets do you have on standby?
How many world leaders have any interest in meeting with you?
How many Queens have had tea with you?

He is far from being a loser. Just because you don’t like him does not make him a loser.

I’m no loser, and I will freely admit he has a lot more going for him than I do.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

@Patty_Melt all of that was run on money, not brains. You are 100x smarter than him. Listen to him blather here:
“TRUMP: We would make a great deal with the United Kingdom because they have product that we like. I mean they have a lot of great product. They make phenomenal things, you know, and you have different names — you can say “England”, you can say “UK”, you can say “United Kingdom” so many different — you know you have, you have so many different names — Great Britain. I always say: ‘Which one do you prefer? Great Britain? You understand what I’m saying?’”

“MORGAN: You know Great Britain and the United Kingdom aren’t exactly the same thing?

TRUMP: Right, yeah. You know I know, but a lot of people don’t know that. But you have lots of different names. The fact is you make great product, you make great things. Even your farm product is so fantastic.”

stanleybmanly's avatar

The man is a disgrace to his office, a limitless embarrassment to his country and an affront to basic decency. The failure to understand that a ghostwritten book from a man who can barely read or write, or the idea that the vulgar habit of slapping his name on shit should not be the measure of a man is a sad indictment on the gullibility of his followers who worship a man they ordinarily wouldn’t trust alone in a room with their children.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

He’s deluded himself into thinking he actually wrote the book!! He’s straight up insane.

Patty_Melt's avatar

As a teacher, do you write off children who have difficulty learning as not worth the effort?
What about those who are embarrassed, and try to cover.

If they are worthy of extra effort,but have previously been passed along, at what point are they too old to care about.
Let’s put a pin in the answers you have for those questions.

Now, of those you have worked with who have difficulty with reading or speaking, did any of them have other qualities which were awesome and surprised you?
I am not interested in your answers. I just want you to think them over for yourself.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

AHAHA! You just compared the president to a child with learning disabilities as though it’s some sort of defense! And you don’t even recognize the irony.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Regarding the disjointed UK post above “As Morgan noted on Twitter, most Americans likely cannot explain the difference between England, Great Britain and the United Kingdom.

But the leader of the free world is not most Americans. The person in that position is usually is expected to have a level of geopolitical knowledge that exceeds that of the average American

Not ours. Ours is a retarded 6th grader.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I was pointing out that an adult can function brilliantly in spite of communication issues.
By the way,when he is involved with an event he knows Dems won’t be viewing such as border events, he speaks quite smoothly. He does a lot of dumbing down to pis all of you off, yet another area where he succeeds and exceeds. Lol.
It has kept you all so busy on none issues. Meanwhile…
TRUMP 2020.
LOL LOL LOL ROFLAO

mazingerz88's avatar

Anyone who’s an evil asshole jeering fool is a loser. Anyone who defends an evil asshole jeering fool is worse than a loser. Lol

Dutchess_lll's avatar

He is far, far, FAR from functioning brilliantly @Patty_Melt. I can’t even fathom how his supporters.can delude themselves into thinking he is. They must be as dysfunctional and nutty as he is.
LOL LOL LOL ROFLAO

Patty_Melt's avatar

You only watch the videos chosen for ridicule.
You don’t see the coverage his fans do.

In regards to achieving set goals, he is very good at that.

People’s views of what a president should be certainly vary, and over time opinion popularity changes.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

I have a brain @Patty_Melt. So do you. Use it. Covfefe?

Patty_Melt's avatar

I refer you to the question I just posted,and the one I am about to write, in general. That means no jokes.
Let’s get serious, and make our opinions specific.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Ok. He’s learning disabled, by your own admission, and seriously not mentally capable of overseeing a country, much less a planet.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I said none of that.it is your own assessment made without facts.
I’m waiting for you to answer my questions.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

“As a teacher, do you write off children who have difficulty learning as not worth the effort?
What about those who are embarrassed, and try to cover.

If they are worthy of extra effort,but have previously been passed along, at what point are they too old to care about.

Gosh dang. I can’t tell if you’re describing trump or Obama.

Patty_Melt's avatar

You are still hijacking this thread, instead of going to general and answering mine.

Patty_Melt's avatar

Never mind. Obviously you can’t follow a train of thought that far.

Answer this question

Login

or

Join

to answer.
Your answer will be saved while you login or join.

Have a question? Ask Fluther!

What do you know more about?
or
Knowledge Networking @ Fluther