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Ruth Bader Ginsberg has died; who will be her successor?

Asked by Demosthenes (14933points) September 18th, 2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dead/index.html

Ruth Bader Ginsberg passed away today at the age of 87. She had been in and out of the hospital due to a recurrence of cancer. How will she be remembered?

And who will or should be the new appointment? Should Trump be able to pick a third SCOTUS justice or should he wait until after the election as was done in 2016?

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Tropical_Willie's avatar

Trump may try and appoint Pence while he is still VP. Trump doesn’t like the Constitution anyway.

janbb's avatar

He and Moscow Mitch have been waiting for this moment. They will ram through a nominee as fast as they can.

Jeruba's avatar

After denying Obama an appointment in March of his last year in office, because it was an election year, will Mitch McConnell suddenly play fair? Of course not. It’ll be as dirty as possible, and even dirtier than that.

This is grievous in too many ways to count.

Ginsburg.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Oh I expect the Holy Conservatives will try, and the Trump lovers will defend it to the death, but if you want to compare they should wait until after the election like they did with Obama.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

they should wait until after the election like they did with Obama

They won’t. Trump and Senate Republicans hold the power to decide.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

RIP voting rights, workers’ rights, women’s’ rights, ethnic minority rights, consumer rights…

Jeruba's avatar

I hope a bigger crowd gathers around the Supreme Court building than there was in front of the Capitol on the last Inauguration Day.

Carrying flowers.

I tell you, I haven’t felt this big a blow to the soul from any national event since the assassination of President Kennedy.

raum's avatar

May her memory be a revolution.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

I hope a bigger crowd gathers around the Supreme Court building than there was in front of the Capitol on the last Inauguration Day.

The largest US protest in history was the day AFTER inauguration day 2016.

“The Washington Women’s March drew over 470,000 people. Between 3,267,134 and 5,246,670 people participated in marches across the U.S., approximately 1.0 to 1.6 percent of the U.S. population

Link:.

I am in this photo of Chicago. See me waving?

Jeruba's avatar

I’m speaking of a solemn tribute in memoriam and not of a protest.

There was no inauguration day in 2016.

janbb's avatar

@Demosthenes Don’t you realize they’ve been planning for this for ever? They have a candidate waiting in the wings and will ram him through.

Jaxk's avatar

RIP. I am truly sorry to hear she passed but she left her mark and will be remembered. Unfortunately this will make a really ugly election even uglier. Violence in the streets will escalate and the election will be strongly contested (regardless of the winner). I expect Trump will name a replacement and McConnell will try to push it through. It’s not clear if it will work.

To quote our esteemed last President, ‘Elections have consequences, I won’.

JLeslie's avatar

If he nominates someone I was thinking two things: The Democrats should get out there and speak to the Republicans who don’t like Trump, but having a hard time voting for Biden. Tell them they got their conservative court, now they can vote against Trump. Or, the Democrats can threaten to add more Justices if the Republicans try to push the confirmation through.

So many sceneries go through my head. Maybe Trump offers up a woman, someone not too extreme to the right, and all the Republican Senators climb on board. Or, maybe he goes fanatic right wing in his possible last move before the election for the glory he receives from his loyal religious right base.

I found this list of potential candidate in a Boston Globe article:

Bridget Bade, judge on the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit

Daniel Cameron, 51st attorney general of the Commonwealth of Kentucky

Tom Cotton, US senator from Arkansas

Paul Clement, partner with Kirkland & Ellis LLP

Ted Cruz, US senator from Texas

Stuart Kyle Duncan, judge on the US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit

Steven Engel, assistant attorney general for the Office of Legal Counsel of the US Department of Justice

Noel Francisco, former solicitor general of the United States

Josh Hawley, US senator from Missouri (Hawley has said he’s not interested)

James Ho, judge on the US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit

Gregory Katsas, judge on the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit

Barbara Lagoa, judge on the US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit

Christopher Landau, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of the United States of America to the United Mexican States

Carlos Muñiz, justice on the Supreme Court of Florida

Martha Pacold, judge on the US District Court for the Northern District of Illinois

Peter Phipps, judge on the US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit

Sarah Pitlyk, judge on the US District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri

Allison Jones Rushing, judge on the US Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit

Kate Todd, deputy assistant to the president and deputy counsel to the president

Lawrence VanDyke, judge on the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit

I have been holding my breath, I’m guessing the whole nation has been, hoping she wouldn’t die before 2021. When I heard she had more cancer I assume it was the pancreatic cancer spreading, I don’t know if it was, but I know it kills fairly quickly once it moves other organs.

She was a warrior to the end. I feel like she died worried about her country, which makes me really sad. I don’t feel she could die peacefully. Similar to a parent who is dying when their child is young. I really believe she was trying to hold on.

ragingloli's avatar

Probably some obscenely unqualified drumpf stooge.
You know, as usual.

janbb's avatar

The two names I had heard mentioned before were Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton – neither of whom have an ounce of fairness in them and one of whom, Tom Cotton, is an avowed racist.

Darth_Algar's avatar

She should have retired years ago, during Obama’s tenure. She was sick even by that point. Unfortunately, she bought into her own “Notorious RGB” rockstar hype and well after the opportunity to replace her seat with a judge similar in outlook had gone.

kritiper's avatar

A democrat.

@Darth_Algar She could have retired years ago but she was a true patriot.
“Duty, honor, country!”

Pandora's avatar

Latest rumor is Trump wants a female Justice appointed to appeal to the women voters. The current thought is that it will be Amy Coney Barrett.
They denied Obama appointing a Justice so they better stay true to their word and let the people decided by their votes come November as to who gets to decide.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@kritiper

There’s nothing patriotic in self-servingly staying around long after you should have passed the buck to someone younger, healthier.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Michelle Obama or Arnold Schwarzenegger.

JLeslie's avatar

I think he will pick a woman.

Would have been his sister probably if she was younger. More family in high positions.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1 “Arnold Schwarzenegger”

May I ask, why?

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Jerry Falwell Jr. is looking for a job, He didn’t make as liquor tester
according to his wive and 911.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@Darth_Algar Because it is the next level for him seeing he can not be president. I am curious about what would happen. Like the same way that I was curious about what would happen if a billionaire was president. He would be interesting to watch. Its very exiting. Arnold Schwarzenegger would bring more interest to the supreme court. I would even watch it. He is a hard worker and excels at what ever he does.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1

No offense, but do you even understand the full implications of this stuff? Politicians and judges craft and interpret law that will effect generations to come. This kind of thing should not be decided on idle curiosity.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@Darth_Algar I am not a lawyer. It is just my pick. It would have to be someone that I have heard of. Who do you pick? I am just having fun. Don’t take it so seriously. Trump probably has someone picked out.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Fortunately you have no say in US elections, but for the sake of your own country I hope you put a little more thought into your vote.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@Darth_Algar No. I am good the way I am. My opinion won’t destroy the country. Just having fun with the question.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1 “Just having fun with the question.”

Yeah, that’s my point and there are far too many people with this mindset. This stuff is not passive entertainment, it effects millions of lives.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@Darth_Algar I still would like Arnold Schwarzenegger. He takes everything he does seriously, and is smart.

I am stopping following this question for a while. I might lurk.

SEKA's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1 It won’t be Arnold simply because he took trump’s place on the apprentice and trump won’t even consider him because he’s jealous of him

I’m thinking that it will be Roger Stone or possibly trump himself

jca2's avatar

I saw a FB petition asking for the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett (mentioned above by @Pandora). I clicked on the petition briefly to see what she’s about and I see she’s pro-life. Of course she is. Ugh ugh ugh.

janbb's avatar

@Darth_Algar To your point about Ginsburg retiring earlier, the only time in the last several years she could have retired safely was in Obama’s first two years of office when there was a Democratic majority Senate. Since she was in her mid-70s then and fully competent, there was no reason for her to retire at that point. Her holding on since then was an act of patriotism.

hmmmmmm's avatar

^ To be fair, her 2009 diagnosis did cause a huge amount of people to call for her to retire. And when she didn’t, the Democratic calls to retire were nonstop. Every year it was the same thing. Everyone saw this coming, and it was part of the discussion and criticism of her again following Trump’s election.

Regardless of what people think of RBG, it’s a pretty clear case of a justice feeling it was worth risking a Republican appointment.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@janbb

She was already sick by that point. From then on it was just a succession of hospitalizations. Those of us who didn’t buy into silly “Notorious RBG” shite knew this day was coming.

janbb's avatar

@Darth_Algar i think you are discounting what she has done for equal rights for women and how important she was.for us. And when she should or should not have retired, I’m not prepared to speculate on. But I’m happy to agree to disagree on this.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@janbb

Rights that very likely will now be eviscerated with the evangelical right all but guaranteed a majority in the Supreme Court for years, maybe decades, to come. All because she refused to retire when it would have served the greater good.

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