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Sympathy for the devil. Do you suppose Pelosi still prays for Trump?

Asked by stanleybmanly (24153points) October 4th, 2020 from iPhone

Or is that a stretch beyond belief?

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Tropical_Willie's avatar

Everyday !

She prays for his soul and . . . he doesn’t give a rat’s ass !!

Jeruba's avatar

Yes, I believe she does because she says she does. I can’t imagine saying it otherwise.

I don’t think it’s about his soul, though, and certainly not about sympathy or absolution. I think it’s for his wisdom, guidance, and well-being here and now; for him to be led in the right path and serve well the nation that has been entrusted to his care. If I were still a praying person, I would pray for that too.

I grew up among people of sincere religious belief, and they did pray for the president, with genuine feeling, whether he was elected in 1952, 1960, or 1968.

JLeslie's avatar

Yes, I do. She prays he will have an epiphany, some sort of substantial change, that will guide him to better serve the American people.

ragingloli's avatar

I bet the pray goes something like this:
“Dear god, may his reign last days, and his death years.”

elbanditoroso's avatar

What was the line in Fiddler on the Rood?

May God Bless and Keep the Czar – Far Away From Here!

gondwanalon's avatar

HA! Good one!

jca2's avatar

If she’s really religious, I believe they’re supposed to pray for everyone, including enemies.

LuckyGuy's avatar

May his recovery be long and arduous.

filmfann's avatar

I believe she prays for his recovery. I don’t doubt her faith is more important to her than politics.

ragingloli's avatar

I also think her prayer time would be better spent on the secret service agents that the orangutan exposed to his plague, when they were forced to chauffeur him around for a photo op.

janbb's avatar

I think Pelosi’s prayers are between her and her Higher Power.

seawulf575's avatar

What a bunch of goofs! Where are all the comments about her living in a fantasy for being religious? For believing in fairy tales? There’s even a comment about how her religious convictions are more important than her politics. Isn’t that what you have all said was horribly evil about Amy Coney Barrett?

hmmmmmm's avatar

@seawulf575: “I’m so confused and can’t imagine that people would respect religious liberty, which means that they need to govern without inserting that religion!”

Then people come here to explain to you, who already understands this, and you respond with how stripping religion is more religious than being fundamentalist. And we’d have this really silly dance that we’ve been having for years.

You can save time by just crying, “Hypocisy central!”

Jeruba's avatar

The question essentially asked whether Pelosi was honest in a specific statement about her own actions. I answered that I think she was.

It did not ask whether we thought there was any point in praying for him, whether we would do it ourselves, or whether we subscribe to her religious views. It did not call for passing a judgment on her religious practices. If someone is interested in responses to those questions, let them ask.

kritiper's avatar

No. I think that was, for all intents and purposes, just a metaphor.

Yellowdog's avatar

If Pelosi prayed for Trump it would come back against her tenfold. God is not mocked.

stanleybmanly's avatar

If God is not mocked, explain for us Trump’s existence!

ragingloli's avatar

I am mocking god all the time, still alive.
And believe me I am
Still alive
I’m doing science and I’m
Still alive
I feel fantastic and I’m
Still alive
While you’re dying I’ll be
Still alive
And when you’re dead I will be
Still alive
Still alive

Nomore_lockout's avatar

Like Trump or not, I do not believe any one wants another human being to come down with that Covid crap. This nation is getting to hateful over politics. I wish him a speedy recovery.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Looks like you got your wish. Looks like he confirmed what many people suspected….he never really had it. He just did it for attention.

Demosthenes's avatar

Despite Republicans’ habit of denying that anyone who isn’t a right-winger can be genuine in their religious convictions, I have no reason to doubt that Pelosi isn’t genuinely praying for whom she claims to pray for.

@seawulf575 Re. Coney Barrett, what I find disingenuous is this sudden concern about “anti-Catholicism” from the evangelical right who routinely affirm that Catholics aren’t Christians and that they “worship statues” and prattle on about how evil and horrible Pope Francis is among other things. Now that one of Trump’s darlings is Catholic, they’re all concerned about anti-Catholic bias affecting her nomination.

seawulf575's avatar

@hmmmmmm First off, I thought you had decided not to engage with me on the pages. But since you have, I notice you give a quote that doesn’t appear anywhere in here. Not sure where it came from. But let’s move on. You used this quote to create some mythical viewpoint that doesn’t exist. No one has tried to explain anything to me. You are responding to my very first post in this thread. My comment is that on every other topic, when religion comes up, the answers abound about how it is a fairy tale, a myth, unrealistic and how only fools would believe in such things. Yet, amazingly, when it is Nancy Pelosi, suddenly it’s a good thing and no one will dare to hint that she is a fool for believing in myths. They even mention that her religious beliefs are more important to her than her politics (her job). And that is exactly what these same people want to slam Amy Coney Barrett about…that her religious beliefs are more important to her than her interpretation of the law (her job). So let’s recap, shall we? You give a quote that doesn’t exist anywhere on this page. You assume people are trying to explain things to me when I hadn’t commented at all until the one you are responding to. You make up some weird interpretation of my comment which is supposed to be in response to all the well-meant explanations to me (which don’t exist)...an interpretation that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I wrote in my comment. The only explanation for all these things is that you are completely obsessed with me to the point that reality doesn’t hold any meaning to you whatsoever. And you are right…we have been doing this dance for years. You didn’t recognize reality then, you certainly didn’t improve with age.

Demosthenes's avatar

@seawulf575 Are you certain those are the same people? The people responding to this thread are the same ones who say “only fools are religious”? There are a few who say that kind of thing here, no doubt, but there are also a lot of non-religious people who respect a politician’s beliefs as long as they don’t interfere with their ability to govern.

seawulf575's avatar

@Nomore_lockout I found an article that would tell you differently. Funny thing, though, I clicked the link to the poll and noticed that, since the news saw the poll and started blasting Dems for being so heartless, the poll was “updated” today (2 days after the news started blasting them) to something entirely different. The reference info was there yesterday, it is gone today. Bias much, Politico?

Yellowdog's avatar

@ragingloli You may mock God, but there is a difference between that and someone who pretends to be among the faithful or elect, pretending self righteously to be close to God while wishing evil and plotting against someone.

There are lots of old ladies like Pelosi in churches. They ruin lives and reputations and split congregations People are afraid to do anything about them, at a woeful effort of keeping peace. Pelosi ain’t no church lady, but it is dispicable to play close to God and say you pray for them when you devote your life to smearing and destroying them.

seawulf575's avatar

@Demosthenes I can go back and dig out the quotes if you like. I have had those same smears thrown at me because I believe in God. So yeah, I’m pretty sure a lot of those same individuals are in this crowd.

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