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What is your take on "Donald Trump's call for the termination of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election "?

Asked by Tropical_Willie (29955points) 1 month ago

Trump claims “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he continued. “Our great ‘Founder’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” https://www.axios.com/2022/12/03/trump-election-fraud-constitution

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Jeruba's avatar

It’s the last train. He’s going to ride it to the bitter end.

He should be watching Putin and Xi for a study in toxic—maybe even suicidal—grandiosity, but he isn’t capable of learning any lessons.

RayaHope's avatar

…( FACEPALM )...

cookieman's avatar

My Sicilian family would say he needs to “disappear”.

JLeslie's avatar

I think it’s a little bit of hyperbole to say he’s calling for the termination of the constitution, but I do think he will completely ignore the constitution if he will benefit. He holds zero reverence to that document.

I saw Pence in an interview about his new book, and he wrote something like Trump thinks one should always take power if one can, even if it’s through beg, borrow, or steal.

He’s sticking with his schtick that he won and there was all sorts of election fraud. It’s the same thing over and over again. Just yesterday I saw a Trump car window sticker that said “Trump won.” Those people are still out there.

As usual Trump projects what he actually does, he is a liar and willingly commits fraud.

@cookieman Amazing no one has tried. I was just wondering the other day if all attempted or completed assassinations have always been against liberal leaders? I don’t know the history. I know an attempt was made on Reagan, but that wasn’t really political.

It might be worth some Sicilian grandmothers putting together at least a curse on him.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

I wonder if he thinks if he gets placed in the White House and still runs for 2024, he’ll declare that part of the CONSTITUTION terminated !

And then declare he is President FOREVER !

elbanditoroso's avatar

It’s consistent with the January 6 insurrection that he created. Trump has a pathologically bad grasp of reality and has for years.

JLeslie's avatar

@Tropical_Willie It wouldn’t surprise me. Although, he doesn’t really need to. He probably has plenty of people in congress who will vote to change the term limits.

Jeruba's avatar

When he heard about Xi Jinping’s arranging to be leader for life, he said he liked the sound of that.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@JLeslie that is a Constitutional amendment ! Term limits can’t be changed by “Moscow Mitch” or any other members of Congress.

JLeslie's avatar

^^How does that work? The states need to ratify an amendment? I think it has to be more than ⅔rds. I don’t remember the rules on that. I need to look it up.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

YUP he would have to have the Constitution changed again, to let him be President for motre than two terms !

Maybe by fiat or “I’m President (DICTATOR) and the Constitution doesn’t apply” ! !

kritiper's avatar

It proves that Trump is TOTALLY
OUT
TO
LUNCH!

ragingloli's avatar

As if the guy ever cared for the constitution in the first place.

Jeruba's avatar

@Tropical_Willie, and since he insists that he already IS in his second term, he’s defying the Constitution to go for a third.

JLeslie's avatar

@Tropical_Willie I know he would have to change the constitution, that’s what I said. We have done it before. We changed the constitution to limit to two terms. Bill Clinton actually felt that more than two should be allowed, but not consecutively, and not for him. He felt he would have to be excluded if it were passed since he endorsed the idea.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification.

It is not a Trump slam dunk !

Jeruba's avatar

Look at the history of the ERA if you want to be reminded of what an arduous process it is.

JLeslie's avatar

I’m not calling it a slam dunk. Don’t take my statement so seriously. My point was there are too many Republicans in office who will go along with any bullshit statement or horrible idea. Like they say, they fall in line.

HP's avatar

The Constitution, the law, the election, none of it matters. He is infallible. He MUST be President. The way he sees it, nothing else makes sense. Telling him otherwise is like me explaining to you why water must flow uphill. There is no such thing as Trump “seeing the light”. No Judge, Congress or God himself is going to shift that perspective. If Trump is not President, foul play is the only tenable explanation. The very laws of physics dictate his will inescapable.

filmfann's avatar

Reminds me of clawing marks on the inside of a casket

Pandora's avatar

I think he’s going for an insanity plea deal because he knows he’s up a creek without a paddle. Especially since Republican media is already moving on to DeSantis and he’s realizing he can’t say anything negative about DeSantis without his own republican fans turning on him. DeSantis has 2024 Florida votes locked and Trump would have a hard time winning in Florida if DeSantis is on the ballot. There have been stories of plenty of his rich friends not wanting to associate much with him these days because they were never really his firends. He has fellow rich associates not really friends.

HP's avatar

The disturbing marvel of it all is that a snake of his magnitude can thrive so spectacularly for so long. Think of it, damned near 80 years solidly on the grift and NOTHING ELSE!! Banks, wives, cities, governments, his lawyers, business partners, contractors, voters, EVERYBODY dependably and without fail SWINDLED. And this from a man who must struggle deciphering the advice in a fortune cookie.

Poseidon's avatar

To say Trump is a ‘bad loser’ is is one of the biggest underestimates there is.

I can never understand how he ever got chosen as a candidate for POTUS and even more incredible was that he actually won.

Whilst in office he proved again and again that he was mentally unbalanced and he cared nothing for the US, only himself.

Although it is a prerequisite for any politician to be able to lie and never answer a question Trump got it down to a fine art.

If he is trying to get the US Constitution scrapped the Americans MUST realise that he not ‘all there’ because the person with the lowest IQ knows that he would never succeed.

And if his Party select Trump to run again for the Presidency and he actually wins another term because of his supporters outnumbering those who don’t support him then the Select Committee and his supporters deserve every thing the get.

It is likely that his new Presidency will be an even bigger farce than his first.

mazingerz88's avatar

My take is the same. The sociopath is a master show runner for his own demented show playing to the satisfaction for entertainment of his deplorable fans. Nothing has changed since Day One of that escalator ride. Still going down.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

House January 6 committee has decided to make criminal referrals, chairman says . .

“Still, the idea of a criminal referral of Trump, even if entirely symbolic in nature, has hung like a shadow over the panel since it was first formed, and many members felt it was a necessary measure in order to complete its work.”

HP's avatar

At minimum the DOJ will have reams of material gathered thru the committee’s investigations. But just watch. I guarantee that if or rather when Trump is indicted, he will attempt to play a get out of jail free card, his claim of a pardon he issued himself while President absolving him of all subsequent Federal prosecutions. And of course, more time will be lost while the courts slog toward the now usual verdict regarding all of his appeals: “BULLSHIT!”

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