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What are your thoughts on my theory about how the UFO phenomenon might change our lives?

Asked by luigirovatti (2863points) May 23rd, 2023

Basically, I think the UFO phenomenon turns us like characters in movies and TV shows. If you think about it, movies, tv shows, books, they all have characters who don’t waste any energy, they’re functional, they do exactly what it’s necessary for them to do in the story. They conduct a lifestyle so different from our own even in our private life. Even if we read a book that’s not good, we get all the basics in there.
For example, you talk in a movie with someone, you argue, the other says something meaningful, walks off, you think about what he says for several seconds, you twist your hesd, flex your shoulders, you look at the camera (empty space) before you, then another walks in right on time, and you have ANOTHER meaningful conversation, and you decide something. This is pretty sure a masterlife, guaranteed.
I think the UFO phenomenon is really the drive engine behind our story, and I assure you, that, when the time comes for us to be contacted by them, whatever they are, to advance the story, they will. Now, there are downsides here as well. Let’s start first with the upsides. Of course we could face monsters, pirates, fairies, etc. Have an extraordinary life. The downside is, not all the characters will live. Not in every story anyway.
Circumstantial evidence is the UFO are an individual experience. Each of us witness contact and/or abduction in a different way.
I have a theory about the abductees too though so I’ll pick it up in a minute. Also, the UFOs in the 1800s were mystery airships which seemed to have technology not possible at that age. Now, it’s flying saucers. Turn a right angle at full speed, for example.
Now, the abductees, for whatever reason, I think they’re dealt with directly. My opinion is they went off script. Or, like in inkheart, came out of their stories. So, they’re punishing them. Another hypothesis is, they wanted to know who was the puppetmaster, so they maybe glimpsed something. And they’re put back on course. Maybe the greys are angry because it cost them a human lifetime. The evidence (circumstantial) about the inkheart theory is they aren’t viewed as an enemy by their abductees after repeated abductions. And this runs in family. Because the families represent whatever characters of the same story as the original one (whoever he may be) that exited as well. I mean, I think it deserves serious debate. Oh, I forgot, implants are also useful to track characters on the story in question.

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gorillapaws's avatar

Your question presumes that UFO’s are extraterrestrial. I think they’re probably advanced drones and experimental aircraft from various militaries around the world. I find it exceedingly unlikely that an extraterrestrial intelligence is capable of solving the challenges of interstellar travel, is trying to be evasive from humanity, but sucks at it. I would think if they can travel between stars then they could probably hide from us if they wanted to not be seen.

luigirovatti's avatar

@gorillapaws: My theory doesn’t address who is behind the UFO phenomenon, only how it will change our lives. It could be anyone, demons, aliens, time-travelers, interdimensional creatures, even drones, it’s not the main question here. If we identify them, we make them stuck here as characters.

seawulf575's avatar

UFOs. I believe in UFOs…I’ve seen them several times. I’ve seen things in our atmosphere and I’ve seen things off in space that I could not explain. But I have no idea if it is little green men behind them, some sort of natural phenomenon (space ones) or if there are drones being used as pre-programmed investigation tools or if they (the ones in the atmosphere) are from one of our Earthly governments.

Caravanfan's avatar

I’m an amateur astronomer. I look up all the time and see flying objects. But I can identify them because I know what the hell I’m looking at.

kritiper's avatar

Well, Chicken Little’s pals believed him when he claimed the sky was falling, so anything is possible with people being as gullible as they are…

elbanditoroso's avatar

Give me something solid, provable, and repeatable, and I’ll buy into the UFO phenomenon. But so far there are a lot of anecdotes and blurry pictures.

I’m totally open to the idea of UFOs; I believe that they probably exist, but I am an evidence-based thinker. Not into fairy tales.

luigirovatti's avatar

@elbanditoroso: There’s phenomena we can’t replicate in a laboratory all the time but we know it exists. For example, earthquakes happen all the time, but we couldn’t ‘til recently replicate them. Yet we know for sure they exist because we measure them indirectly. As for the evidence, there’s a lot of circumstantial one, like radar tracking, sightings made by pilots of the Air Force who spend hundreds of hours of flight experience who are able to identify threats to US airspace.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@elbanditoroso I can understand your point of view. However. Throughout history, humans have relied on hearsay.
Anecdotes, stories, pictures, drawings/paintings, archeological artifacts (especially ancient writings,) etc determine things considered “facts.”
The entirety of our accepted history is attributed to trusting what people have claimed. Especially if claims are evidenced by multiple different sources…
In addition, I assume that you (like me,) accept what is considered scientific fact because we both assume that the science is solid and survived scientific scrutiny…
So. In a way, your/our logic, is mostly attributed to things we haven’t personally confirmed to be true. Right?

Blurry photos, claims of all types of different phenomenon, even some unexplained artifacts, are more evidence than we have to confirm many aspects of our history. In some cases, the limited data we have is more extreme than claims of extraterrestrials, or the like.
There are many ancient monolithic structures that if I told you I saw, explained them to you and maybe even had a few blurry photos of or could draw what I saw, you wouldn’t probably believe. If hypothetically, nobody knows about the pyramids of Egypt but you meet me in a bar and I tell you about them, draw them on napkins, or show you a picture on my old phone that doesn’t take great pictures. You probably wouldn’t believe me. I wouldn’t believe the story. Massive ancient structures, made so precisely, of stones so large they don’t make sense to the era I claim they are from…

My point is, facts are often stranger than fiction. Could we agree on that?

What about justice systems throughout human history?

“Evidence” is rarely so accurate as a video of someone committing murder…
It typically takes gathered objects, scientific testing, witness testimony, etc…
A prosecution team’s job, is to prove that someone did something illegal. In most successful prosecutions, leading to punishment of a defendant, the prosecution offers pieces of clues, and witness testimony (often from just an ordinary citizen,) to prove their case to a jury. Right?
And. This is an acceptable way for determining (in some cases,) if someone is a murderer. Which can lead to a person facing long term imprisonment, or even a death sentence. That’s some pretty serious shit…

Again. My point being is, we rely on the same logic, same eye witness accounts, same frequently small amounts of evidence to determine “fact.”

If we dismiss that people have witnessed a certain unexplainable phenomenon, and/or other evidence of such things (even though we have not personally seen convincing evidence,) by that logic we should dismiss all historical data, and most verdicts of organized courts of law. All science, history, and acceptable phenomena is typically backed by the same evidence that most UFO cases are…

Dies that mean I believe everything I hear about, see pictures of, or even personally witness? No…

There is certainly a plethora of obvious evidence of “factual” phenomena. It’s obvious that gravity (or at least the observed effects,) is a real thing. Obvious that there are volcanoes, inexplicable ancient monolithic structures, birds, fish, water, wind, fire, doors, F-18 fighter jets, rockets, artificial/natural satellites, platypus, monster trucks, vampire bats, etc…

I would ask that if you apply the same logic you use to determine what you currently consider fact, to the “unknown,” you may come to the same conclusions as myself.
That is. There are things that exist, that although they defy logic, exist nonetheless. Even if only 0.001% of the crazy shit we’ve heard about is true, that’s a lot of pretty amazing stuff…

My personal beliefs on the subject matter of UFOs, is that most are indeed advanced/classified human technologies. Given the evidence of some, I believe that some of these objects are us, from the future. Others may be other dimensions/universes, or actually from outside of our world.

@gorillapaws as usual, your logic is solid. Except for one variable. Fuck ups…
If we assume that “ETs,” evolved into the space faring, highly advanced creatures needed to be capable of traveling here, we (in my mind) must also assume that they are fallible. In other words, their technology occasionally malfunctions, or fails. Which is when we are able to observe them, or find their wreckage, or somehow notice them…
Think about it. Dave the alien, isn’t the smartest alien on his interstellar vessel. Unfortunately for the test of his crew, Dave is in charge of the cloaking device for the vessel. So. Dave being Dave, accidentally turns off the cloaking device while watching alien pornography. Unbeknownst to the crew, who think they are invisible to a military base they are studying.
Bam! We got a video…

All life on Earth is capable of fucking up. If life elsewhere in the universe is anything like our lifeforms, they fuck up too…
Just as we would assume that they are three dimensional beings, we should assume that they are also capable of mistakes…

@luigirovatti makes some excellent points, along the same lines as me…

If I think of things that were mysterious to us, in my lifetime that aren’t now, I cannot dismiss at least entertaining most phenomena with a brief analysis of my own.
The Northern Lights (arora borealis,) was a mystery when I was a child (I’m pretty sure.)

With the use of our awesome James Webb Space Telescope, we are observing a massive amount of either unexplainable phenomena, or that we don’t understand the universe like we thought we did…

The future is very exciting. (I think.) Much better than the present…

We could one day master the secrets of space and time. Or. Be rendered extinct in a infinite number of ways…

If there are extraterrestrials here, I think they are simply observing us. We might be a great source of entertainment…. The greatest reality show EVER. All of us just a character, struggling through our mortal delima of existing, enduring all of the trials and tribulations that come with being a “lifeform.”...

gorillapaws's avatar

@MrGrimm888 Anything’s possible. But imagine you were living out near Groom Lake one evening in the late 70’s when out of nowhere this fucking thing flies over your house while you’re listening to your 8-track. Your first thought is almost certainly extra terrestrials.Think about all of the projects that are still classified and got canceled and never made it to production, and that’s just the USA. There are many other countries making things. And now it’s easier than ever to create prototypes of flying vehicles.

I’m not saying I’m ruling out ETs entirely, but my inclinations are unidentified experimental aircraft by foreign or domestic militaries, but possibly even pet projects of billionaires, because that’s the world we live in now.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^100… Like I said, that’s my opinion of what could explain most UFOs…
And like I also said, your logic is rock solid…

I always keep in mind “Clark’s law.” Any technology that is far advanced from the norm, is typically considered magic/unexplainable…

seawulf575's avatar

@MrGrimm888 I saw something one night with a friend of mine. We were talking and suddenly he said “Look at that! What is it?” I looked up and there was a series of orange lights in a “check mark” formation, flying about 100 feet above the tree tops, following along the main road we were next to. It was following the road perfectly. We watched it as long as we could. It made no engine noise and wasn’t moving enormously fast (maybe about 40–50 mph). We couldn’t figure it out. The next day there was a fairly clear picture of it on the front page of the newspaper. The article said it was seen over about a 15 mile length of this main road. Many of the reports sounded about like ours, though we didn’t call anyone to report it. The article went on to say that the military had been called and they denied any knowledge of it.

Since it couldn’t be identified and it was flying, that does make it a UFO. However that does not mean it wasn’t man-made. It might have been a military aircraft and they are lying about it. That seems unlikely since it was low to the ground and in fairly well populated areas. It might have been some sort of drone, though drones were rare in the day. But drones in those days had distinct sounds and this thing had none. And it was big. The lights showed a wingspan of about 20–25 feet. Not to mention that drones require a radio signal for control and I don’t think we had civilian radio controls that would reach 15 miles. So to me it remains a mystery.

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