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What alternatives to birth certificate when ID expired?

Asked by iquanyin (363points) June 5th, 2009

my friend of 8 years asked me to research how he might get his birth certificate from sacramento because he let his ID expire. he’s over 50 and like me, adopted. from his info i’m thinking illegitamate too, and i already knew he’d grown up with a series of “dads.” basically it’s complicated. so i thought: hey, he’s had the same job that i got him when i left for hawaii seven years back. it’s a group home job. you must be fingerprinted, get crim background check, etc before you can even work alone at a group home. obviously they did all this with him seven years ago. he says he can’t cash his work checks because his ID is expired, and oregon doesn’t want to renew it now until he produces his authorized birth certificate. his rent’s paid up till next month, but i note the sacremento public records (we’re both cali born) says it takes 3 months (!) to send you a birth cert. steve’s ready to pay a lawyer. i was about to google—i’m sure there must be a simpler, faster way——when i says to meself, hey! wait! flutherites are the most outstanding problem solvers ever. (really). so… anyone got a quick, inexpensive solution? i mean, his work has his friggn fingerprints and xeroxes of his (then-current) ID. that won’t suffice? and his young adult daughters can couch for his ID, as can many others knowing him for nearly 2 decades.

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update…further googling yeilds…no answer. hmmm. this is also the first question i’ve ever asked on fluther that didn’t get responses amazingly fast. maybe steve will need a lawyer after all.

the whole thing seems so silly. any major baddie from afar would obviously have really nice, fake, expensive documents, like any good spy. it’s ordinary, domestic folks—older folks esp—who get caught in such a bind. and why people think only people from somewhere else need watching is also beyond me. oh well, more googling. btw, “certificate of no birth”—did run across that, but is it a true thing? the site wants to be paid for their efforts, so i’m skeptical. when i was first in hawaii i hit the wateringholes and (gulp) lost my birth cert, keys, ID, and so on. never having left the mainland before, i had copies—on a cd rom. no one cares about that! four frustrating months later——still no replacements, couldn’t fly back to cali to get them in person—i was starting to despair that i’d never have ID again. eventually i was able to find a notary republic to sign off on me. this was because i’d become a friend, for months, of his next door neighbor. it was also just under a year after 911——and in all this time (tho i haven’t researched it) i’ve yet to hear how having no ID played any part in that. i’m pretty it didn’t. what i’ve learned so far online today is this: many people in their 60s and up were born at home, and never had a birth certificate to begin with. and it’s really complicating things when they need to renew drivers licences. sheesh.

noelasun's avatar

I looked on google as well, found nada.
I myself used my naturalization certificate, and I wanted to answer that… but then it occured to me its not something everyone has.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

Some states issue personal ID cards for people who don’t drive. Here it takes a social security card, and two items with your name and address on them, like a utility bill, pay stub, etc.

La_chica_gomela's avatar

In some states there is an alternate route to renewing a driver’s license besides a certified birth certificate. The easy way is with a passport, but it doesn’t sound like he has one. The hard way is usually a bunch of affidavits from family members (notarized), utility bills, pay stubs, the expired driver’s license. It’s a pain in the butt. I’ll try to look into whether Oregon allows this.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

Regardless, the sooner he starts the process to get the birth certificate, the better. This will come up again, I’m sure.

La_chica_gomela's avatar

Ok, the Oregon DMV’s website is a lot more confusing than Texas. We have, like, a chart. It says you need A or B and C. If you don’t have C, you need D and F. This is a bunch of text. I’ll think about it, and see if I can come up with something.

I agree with @PandoraBoxx, but this is a tough situation right now.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

Sometimes it says “it takes three months” but there are usually expedited ways within a system. It may take a fee. If someone had to get a passport for work, and needed a passport in a hurry, that can happen within 24 hours. Does he have his social security card?

iquanyin's avatar

steve just clled while i was looking at these replies. he’s just going to see a lawyer monday. yes, he has his card, btw. his ID just expired on may 8th (his birthday). he thought he had till the end of the month to renew. as to the work fingerprints, he prefers to handle it w/o involving work (because technically he probably isn’t supposed to keep working until his ID is current again, even though he’s been there all these years.) US bank, btw, i being a butt. they wouldn’t let him sign his check over to a coworker to cash it. annoying. and just as i guessed, steve never bothered getting his own account. i figured, since he never saves and it’s a small town so you don’t absolutely need a bank account. his boss is also a longterm friend of mine. i told him he should just tell her what’s going on and see if she can help him on the paycheck part. the company has direct deposit bus steve never got around to that (i sure will).

even with non-expired ID, california claims it takes three months to get a birth certificate to you. that’s a long time to let your paychecks pile up! hopefully the lawyer can help.

iquanyin's avatar

steve just called while i was looking at these replies. he’s just going to see a lawyer monday. yes, he has his card, btw. his ID just expired on may 8th (his birthday). he thought he had till the end of the month to renew. as to the work fingerprints, he prefers to handle it w/o involving work (because technically he probably isn’t supposed to keep working until his ID is current again, even though he’s been there all these years.) US bank, btw, i being a butt. they wouldn’t let him sign his check over to a coworker to cash it. annoying. and just as i guessed, steve never bothered getting his own account. i figured, since he never saves and it’s a small town so you don’t absolutely need a bank account. his boss is also a longterm friend of mine. i told him he should just tell her what’s going on and see if she can help him on the paycheck part. the company has direct deposit bus steve never got around to that (i sure will).

even with non-expired ID, california claims it takes three months to get a birth certificate to you. that’s a long time to let your paychecks pile up! hopefully the lawyer can help.

filmfann's avatar

Even an expired passport will work.

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