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Would you leave US if Donald Trump becomes President?

Asked by imrainmaker (8380points) May 21st, 2016

There are reports of US citizens considering options to settle in Canada if Trump becomes US Prez. First of all is it true and if so are you one of them?

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SQUEEKY2's avatar

I think it’s a lot of empty threats it’s a lot harder to imagrate than people think.

johnpowell's avatar

Same threats were made during every election. Johnny Deep is the only documented person to actually follow through.

Pachy's avatar

No, that would be cutting off my nose to spite Trump’s face.

However…

I would seriously consider hiding under my bed until the day he’s impeached and ousted, as surely he would soon be.

dappled_leaves's avatar

What @SQUEEKY2 says is true, but I will just add – if there is a mass immigration from the US to Canada, and y’all start voting conservative here, I and many other Canadians are going to be very, very pissed off. If you want to come live here for our values, then understand what they are first.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

I will stay and join the resistance.

ragingloli's avatar

Just one more reason to never set a foot into that hellhole you call a country.

DoNotKnowMuch's avatar

Strange, considering that nobody has really been able to articulate why Trump is significantly different from other Republicans. I suspect if people are claiming they are going to leave the US if Trump is elected, they have either been consuming way too much mainstream media, or they also tried to leave during previous Republican presidencies.

There also has to be some overlap between people who claim to plan to leave the US if Trump is elected and those that are voting for the candidate who will most likely lead to a Trump presidency. So, I don’t buy it.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@ragingloli I don’t know if you can call the usa a hellhole but there are a great deal of them that are batshit crazy, for that reason alone it wouldn’t bother me if I never set foot in the us again.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

I’ll move to Hawaii, I don’t if he knows that’s a state. ;>)

Darth_Algar's avatar

No. We endured 8 years of Reagan, we endured 4 years of Bush I, we endured 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Bush II, 7 years of Obama so far. Every cycle brings people claiming they’ll leave the country if ___ is elected. No one does. This country endures whoever’s in office, it’ll endure Trump just the same.

cazzie's avatar

Hell, I left when Reagan won a second term.

Coloma's avatar

I’d love to leave the country and almost did back in 2006. Now I can’t afford to.
I was on the edge of buying a house in Costa Rica but the timing just wasn’t quite right with my daughter still being only 18. Now, after being wiped out in the recession I regret not buying that darling little teak wood bungalow on 3 acres with Mango, Banana & Avocado trees, a fresh water stream and pond, parrots and howler monkeys and only 2 miles to the beach.

All for 60k.
Biggest-mistake-of-my-life.
Now I’m destined to die here in poverty as an older person. Pffft!

ucme's avatar

Maybe the Canadians should start building their own wall, keep you disenfranchised yanks out

Rarebear's avatar

Of course not.

Buttonstc's avatar

Ha ha. No. I have enough problems getting around without adding moving to another country on top of it.

Most of the people threatening this will never do it. Just hyperbole.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Why? I did not leave when the douche bag cowboy from Crawford Texas was ruining the nation.

gondwanalon's avatar

Canada is too cold for me. I just got back from a trip to Queen’s Land Australia and absolutely love that place! Not too hot and not too cold. I meet the requirements to retire there. Also New Zealand will take me as a retiree. The USA is in meltdown mode and it’s nice to know that I can get out of Dodge City quickly and fly away to Mooloolaba anytime I want.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

^^^ Well I can’t disagree with you there @gondwanalon. That’s why our ad campaign used to be beautiful one day, perfect the next. It’s pretty perfect here today. Shall I get some tents and camp beds ready to put up in the backyard for US citizens seeking asylum? Just don’t come on a boat. People get very upset about that here. Fly in and you’re fine. Might be okay if you arrive on a cruise liner.

janbb's avatar

@Earthbound_Misfit Although in reality, Australia has very tough immigration laws – or at least the procedure for getting permanent residency.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

We do indeed. And I don’t have a problem with our immigration laws or their toughness. I think the US has pretty tough immigration laws too don’t you? I do have serious issues with our treatment of asylum seekers. Our camps on Manus Island and Nauru are not holiday destinations. I’d still put tents out the back for any of you who want to seek asylum.

janbb's avatar

@janbb We do. I wasn’t being particularly judgmental, just being a know-it-all. :-)

imrainmaker's avatar

@janbb – you’re talking to yourself..)

janbb's avatar

@imrainmaker You’re right. Maybe I’m not so smart after all!

imrainmaker's avatar

That can’t be true..)

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

I’m a bit ahead of the curve on this one.

stanleybmanly's avatar

There would be little point to fleeing the country. For those of you outside the country laughing at the perpetual farce the United States has become, don’t think for a moment that you are immune to the consequences of the stupidities exhibited here. Believe me, with Trump at the helm, we here will not suffer alone!

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Sadly @stanleybmanly I feel you’re totally correct, if his Trumpness gets in it will be felt the world over, and hopefully won’t catapult the world into WW3.

gondwanalon's avatar

@Earthbound_Misfit I can be in Mooloolaba in 25 hours on Qantas. Found a very nice house with a private boat dock there for only $860,000AD. I can pay cash no problem. Very nice low priced condos there and Caloundra also.

cazzie's avatar

Great display of American Hubris. What makes Americans think they can just move to a different country? You know they have better laws at keeping foreigners out, right? You can’t just show up and buy a house.

Buttonstc's avatar

Geez, @cazzie, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning? Most of these comments are just lighthearted fantasy musings.

But if I WERE moving to someplace (which I’m NOT) I sure as hell would avoid your neighborhood (and possibly entire country) so I wouldn’t have to accidently run into you sucking on a lemon and lecturing me about my hubris.

:D

GSLeader's avatar

There is no need to do that. If I didn’t leave when Bam stole the office I surely won’t leave for anybody else.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@GSLeader

How, exactly, does winning by 10,000,000 popular votes and by 192 electoral votes = “stealing the office”?

SecondHandStoke's avatar

@cazzie

Bordering Mexico has given many Americans the impression they can just integrate into another nation’s society.

ragingloli's avatar

@cazzie
colonials think they are better than everyone else, and that they can just roll into another country as if they own it, just because they are colonials.

janbb's avatar

@ragingloli actually, I have found that to be more true of some Germans.

longgone's avatar

Considering how few people any of us really know – compared to the 80 million Germans or the 320 million US-Americans – it’s probably a safe bet to say that we have no idea what we know.

Buttonstc's avatar

@ragingloli

Were it not for the Germanic tendency to just roll into other countries and subjugate them by force, neither my mother nor her brother would have had to leave the homeland to seek refuge in America.

And, subsequently, I would not have been born in the land of the “colonials”. But, I rather like it here. There are certainly worse places to be.

So, my existence here is Germany’s own damn fault; what goes around comes around. Such is life :)

Darth_Algar's avatar

@ragingloli

I suppose the British would know about just rolling into another country as if they own it.

cazzie's avatar

<—- ducks from the fall out of a German discussing hubris of expansion.

cazzie's avatar

I think living as an immigrant in a country that doesnt’ want them would be a good lesson for many Americans.

imrainmaker's avatar

Far off Australian seems to be welcoming… neighbors doesn’t seem so..Always the case with neighbors..)

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Buttonstc Hmmm. But do I recall correctly that you are against the US taking in Syrian refugees? That’s an interesting irony.

Buttonstc's avatar

Where did I say that I was against the US taking in Syrian refugees?

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Buttonstc My bad, it was not about refusing Syrian refugees, it was about wanting to expel all Muslims from France. Same idea, different country.

Buttonstc's avatar

No, not same idea at all.

And in that particular Q I made it crystal clear that something like that would not be acceptable in the USA.

I also made it clear that the ultimate GOAL was to make it impossible for ISIS to keep hiding in plain sight because there would be a vested interest in apprehending them.

The plain fact of the matter is that the majority of Muslims are not violent terrorists. But the terrorists are smart enough to hide among them in plain site (as was the case in France)

So, was my suggestion for France necessarily all that realistic or practical to implement? Probably not but they are a much smaller country.

What I found the most ironic was the revelation that the authorities knew exactly which neighborhoods were home turf for that radical element. So, perhaps if some of their fellow (peaceful) Muslims had been more willing to drop a dime, perhaps that horrible night might have been prevented.

But France and the USA are two totally different scenarios. So, not the same thing at all.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Buttonstc So, you’re totally ok with accepting more Syrian refugees in the US, then?

Buttonstc's avatar

Yes because every reasonable effort is being made to properly vet them.

Even tho ISIS brags about sneaking their members in this way, it’s more bragging than anything else. Besides, it’s a whole lot easier for them to just sneak across either the Southern or Northern border. Trying to pass oneself off as a Syrian refugee is a whole lot more difficult. Plus the journey is a hell of lot harder due to distance.

The other factor is that here in the US, the rest of the broader general Muslim population is highly intolerant of the radical crazies and far more likely to drop a dime.

There are tons of Muslims living about 45 mins. away in Dearborn without problem, by and large.

And nearby Hamtramck just elected a majority Muslim city Council. Even tho some media reports have tried to distort the facts and focus upon confkicts , the truth can be more likely found in this report from someone who lives in the area.
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http://www.thenation.com/article/whats-life-like-in-americas-first-city-with-a-muslim-majority-city-council/
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I think this is the last place on earth where a violent jihadist could successfully recruit without being promptly reported to authorities (and some of those authorities being Muslim themselves)

Do you honestly think that violent Jihad has any appeal to the Muslim people of Hamtramck? Do you really think that an ISIS cell could successfully gain adherents there? Get real.

So, I repeat, NOT THE SAME as France at all. Totally different.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Buttonstc Well, I don’t follow your double standard here at all, but it doesn’t really affect my earlier point about the parallel situation in France. I brought it up because seeing you claim moral high ground here in the issue of refugees and immigration was rather surprising after that memorable exchange in the other thread.

But this is becoming a rather convoluted sidebar; I’m not going to pursue it further.

Buttonstc's avatar

Fine by me.

I bet you didn’t even bother reading that article :)

But, whatever….

BTW: it’s certainly not a stretch for practically ANYONE (other than violent Jihadists) to claim moral high ground over Hitler. The only requirement is having a pulse :) Sheesh

Roby's avatar

NO, I will if that Clinton B&*^% wins.

stanleybmanly's avatar

What would be the use in leaving? I can remember when W was reelected as I was wandering through Europe. Every time I pulled out that blue passport, the first words from whoever spied it “what the hell is wrong with you Americans?” I’m not kidding. The phrase or something very close was the banner headline on every newspaper in the kiosk across the street from my hotel London, and the damned question followed me scross the continent for weeks.

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