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Thoughts on Political Incorrectness?

Asked by Catnip5 (101points) 3 weeks ago

Any better than PC culture or has its own extreme disadvantages too?

From either side of the issue on PC culture, I could certainly understand the issue of too much censorship, free speech, and being (un)apologetic. I’m not always big on too much censorship myself. But even I don’t feel the ‘un-PC side’ truly justified itself from freedom of criticism or repercussion, which always seems to be a very common misconception upon those who favor it.

I couldn’t find too many articles or posts arguing about the disadvantages of being un-PC/anti-PC, a lot are overwhelmingly about the disadvantage of its opposite instead. And I heard too many arguments against that already. Not interested in repeated information. Share your points. :)

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Catnip5's avatar

I could go on more in my description through examples but I think I’ll just end my main topic on that note for now.

zenvelo's avatar

Procaliming oneself as “politically incorrect” is a euphemism for “I get to treat people with disrespect and act like an asshole even if it offends you”.

Catnip5's avatar

Can’t edit my question anymore. That last sentence should really be: “Not really interested in repeated information.”

@zenvelo Which I think is a poor (and silly) way to go about that, when you think about it.

tinyfaery's avatar

How about we just call it respecting people?

rockfan's avatar

I’ve talked to some conservatives about the history of Native Americans and one person criticized me for being politically correct for using that term. I replied “You mean being polite towards a group of people is considered politically correct?”

Later in the conversation I mentioned that pledging your loyalty to the United States before a sports game is kind of ridiculous, and he responded “You better stand for the flag that I fought for.”

I replied “So I guess you believe in political correctness in some instances?”

He furrowed his brow and ended the conversation.

seawulf575's avatar

My feeling is that PC indicates that the listener’s feelings are the most important thing in the world. Non-PC indicates that the speaker’s feelings are the most important. Neither is really good. It is impossible to avoid offending all possible listeners with almost any topic. It is unbearably boorish and rude to say the first thing that hits your head without consideration of your audience.

Catnip5's avatar

@tinyfaery Was there something about my question that is rude in any way?

Catnip5's avatar

@rockfan
It’s funny how those scenarios kind of worked either way.

Your latter story kind of reminded me of an incident that happened with my former high school classmate. When he didn’t stand up to do the pledge of allegiance in the morning and then my teacher got on his case about it. He just seem tried to do so at the moment. Because my classmate is Mexican, my teacher then uttered this sentence out in frustration ‘Well, you could always just go back to Mexico if that seems to be a problem for you around here!’ She later apologized to the class for that kind of outburst. Other students made refuted points like ‘that’s like telling your black students in this classroom to go back to Africa’ and such.

That topic alone also represents another common discussion on whether it should become mandatory for students to participate in the morning pledge (and to the lesser extent, and probably more controversial, whether the ‘under God’ line should remain there or not).

Darth_Algar's avatar

@Catnip5 “That topic alone also represents another common discussion on whether it should become mandatory for students to participate in the morning pledge”

The Supreme Court answered that question 70 years ago. They ruled that requiring students to participate in the Pledge was a violation of Constitutional rights.

Catnip5's avatar

@Darth_Algar And even then, some students would still get in trouble over it. My example wasn’t as extreme like some other cases that I’ve heard of before, where the students would face repercussion over it by faculties. Some educators probably forgot what the Supreme Court stated.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@Catnip5

Or just don’t know any better. Or are confident that they won’t face any repercussions. I remember as a kid we always stood and recited the Pledge. I don’t remember it specifically being mandated, but everyone just kinda did it without question (this was during the Ronnie Ray-Gun era, so the collective jingoism was at a high). Although I do not recall the morning pledge ever being done (at least in the schools I went to) beyond like 4th or 5th grade.

johnpowell's avatar

Now with Facebook and Youtube you can turn being a bag of shit into a million dollar enterprise. Look at Milo and PewPewwhatever.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

It basically say this: If you don’t believe, act or follow what we (insert left wing group) do then you are a worthless pile of dogshit. Some cases that is actually true and some not, either way it is derogatory to call someone “PC.”

janbb's avatar

I think “politically correct” is a derogatory term used by the right. The rest of us just call it respect for others.

seawulf575's avatar

@janbb that was pretty politically incorrect towards the right.

Catnip5's avatar

@janbb Makes sense to me. Particularly from what I’ve been seeing in YouTube comment sections (yeah, I know) under a lot of old WWII cartoons, PSA videos from the 50s, and other banned clips.

The term ‘political correct’ kind of lost it meaning, or never hold onto a true one to begin with.

zenvelo's avatar

@seawulf575 Yes, @janbb is not nice to snowflakes. She is also not only “politically correct” but factually correct.

seawulf575's avatar

@zenvelo So it is okay to be disrespectful to those that have differing opinions from yourself? And it is okay to lump all people into one group? I’m trying to learn the rules here, because I really believe they should apply to everyone.
And, BTW, “politically correct” was not a term started by the right. It was started by the left. The right picked it up to start pointing out the foolishness of the meanings to which it was being applied.
I stand by my earlier post here. PC depends on the feelings of the listener. And as such, what we have is a situation in which no matter what you say, you could offend someone. Even if you try coming up with some completely innocuous statement, someone will be offended, even if it is just at the efforts to avoid hurting someone’s feelings. Political Correctness at best is used as a weapon by both sides. I give you janbb’s statement as example. She is correct that the right does often use it as a derogatory term. But then she goes on to state that the rest of “us” call it respect for others. The implication there is that all person on the right are disrespectful and that all those on the left are not. Nothing could be further from the truth and is offensive to most people on the right. It also shows arrogance by those on the left and condescension to boot. So, in fact, she is using it as a derogatory term, or at least her understanding of it is derogatory.

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