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Is Epstein just another angle they're coming at Trump from?

Asked by Dutchess_III (40148points) February 23rd, 2019

I had forgotten about him, and the allegations of the sexual exploitation and abuse of under age girls.
It came up during the campaign, and allegedly Trump was up in the middle of all of it.
Now it’s back front and center again.

Are they going to tie Trump to this horrible business? And then what?

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SavoirFaire's avatar

Politics follows a pretty simple decision tree:

1. Is event X being perceived by the public as good or bad?
2. If good, tie it to yourself/your party.
3. If bad, tie it to an opponent/the opposition party.

So the answer is yes, someone will attempt to tie this to Trump. Then someone else will try to explain why it’s really the Democrats’ fault. And since both arguments will inevitably be bad, honest citizens will need to do their own research and decide for themselves.

mazingerz88's avatar

Awaiting trump supporters’ post mentioning Clinton’s connection with Epstein and that it’s the same if not worse.

Yellowdog's avatar

I don’t see any political connection, even though Epstein and Trump have a past history.

I agree that anything to make Trump look bad, the epicenter of evil, will be front and center in the news, Think of how many times its already happened.

@mazingerz88 no one cares if anyone else did it. The tie to Trump will be emphasized beyond any logical connection.

flutherother's avatar

Trump has been a friend of Epstein’s for many years but whether that makes Trump look bad or Epstein look bad is hard to say.

elbanditoroso's avatar

Epstein is a scum all by himself, without any connection to Trump. And it sounds like there are lots of people in the legal / justice system that let him get away with it.

mazingerz88's avatar

Trump is the epicenter of political evil @Yellowdog. Immediately close around him are his rabid supporters who would cheer if he shoots someone in 5th Avenue.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

someone will attempt to tie this to Trump.

There is no try. It’s a fact. Trump’s Labor Secretary Acosta worked on behalf of a child molester and sex trafficker against the victims.

It’s been known for a while, and Trump has kept Acosta in the cabinet.

SavoirFaire's avatar

In order to do something, one must try to do it. I was purposefully using success-neutral language. I was also specifically referring to comments made by politicians.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Do you guys think that they could be coordinating with Muller so that it all hits at once?

zenvelo's avatar

@Dutchess_lll who are you thinking sinthebgreat they you keep mentioning? Please name specific people, groups, or organizations. Using general pronouns is conspiracy theory speak.

There is no cabal “coordinating” anything, especially the Special Counsel.

Dutchess_lll's avatar

Come on ZenV. Muller is one. Who ever is prosecuting Epstein is the other.
Could they be working to time the investigations to break at about the same time?

janbb's avatar

But Obama…..

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@Dutchess_lll This isn’t Perry Mason, with a timed surprise ending.

seawulf575's avatar

Actually, what I saw recently about Epstein is that the deal that was cut with him is illegal. That has nothing to do with Trump, but does mean Epstein could be facing stiffer punishments. His trial is over. The punishment is all that is being looked at. Now, it might happen that the trial was settled because he took the sweet plea deal (that is supposedly illegal), so he might get another trial, but that could last years as well.

Dutchess_III's avatar

One last time @seawulf575….would you please share what you “saw recently”? If not we will just assume you are making stuff up again.

Guys, I know it sounds half cocked to suggest that they’re doing things so that he’ll get hit with a avalanche. It’s just something I wonder about.

Yellowdog's avatar

Hit with an avalanche?

Dutchess, “they” do this to, or say something like this about Trump every five or six days for the past 30 or so months. Nothing new.

Dutchess_III's avatar

You still refuse to see it? Not my conspiracy idea, of course, but what he’s going to actually get hit with very soon? You still refuse to see it?

Yellowdog's avatar

Nothing there. Even the news is downplaying it.

Dutchess_III's avatar

No, they aren’t.. They don’t have anything new to report. Everyone is just waiting now.

Yellowdog's avatar

Adam Schiff is certainly angry. Initially the report might not even be released. Probably lots of national enquirer type stuff.

But no other source. including the Inspector General, has found anything. Adam Schiff says he / congress will do their own investigations.

For two years, all I’ve heard, by the seventh, eighth, or final paragraph of every article, is that there is no evidence of ‘collusion.’

Dutchess_III's avatar

smh. All you’ve heard from trump’s Twitter feed is “no collusion.”

Tropical_Willie's avatar

A tweet is worth “do not pass GO do not collect $200” ! !

Why would I lie ? ? Collusion with Putin and the Russian oligarchy ! ! !

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seawulf575's avatar

@Dutchess_III your citation for “they” again is all about the Mueller report and has nothing to do with Epstein. You are really into conspiracy theory.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Why are you insisting that I fight your battles for you all of a sudden? My debate is not with @elbanditoroso, or with @mazingerz88 or with @Tropical_Willie, or anyone else on this thread. It is with you @Yellowdog.

seawulf575's avatar

So you only want to battle with me. Game on.

seawulf575's avatar

Oh! And @Dutchess_III? Be prepared to put up or shut up. I’m going to hold you to the exact same standards you hold me too. Every time you make a statement, you better be prepared to post a Reputable source. And I will be the one to determine if it is reputable.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I have posted reputable sources. You won’t see me quoting left leaning sources. That would make me look bad! Like, I was just desperate for anything bullshit thing to back me up.

seawulf575's avatar

Ok dear, as I said: Game On. Be careful what you wish for.

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Dutchess_III's avatar

Oh, is THAT what that nonsense was @Tropical_Willie. He’s made a couple of vaguely threatening comments today. That’s what some men resort to when they’re losing an argument to a women.

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