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Porn Viewers: are there racist elements to interracial porn?

Asked by Simone_De_Beauvoir (38935points) July 10th, 2009

http://www.racialicious.com/2009/07/10/dear-porn-industry-must-interracial-porn-always-be-so-racist/

My close friend wrote this article, what do you think? Do you think interracial porn is racist? Providing you watch porn…why do you think this is so? is this a way for latent racism to get expressed? Don’t we have enough real-life racism going on? Does this give weird expectations for people who have sex outside their race in the manner that ‘regular’ porn gives men and women ideas?

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sap82's avatar

Yes it is racist. Specifically, addressing Black men on white women, it effectively displays a lot of the African American male’s hang ups about oppression, even though they are less than oppressed these days. Most of these sites display extremely well hung black men sucker or seducing young white teenage college girls into overpowering sexual acts with them where undoubtedly there will be racist slurs used by both parties. This is not saying that it is purely racist on the black mans part, but the women as well.

In terms of the watcher however, it opens up a totally different perspective that can be interpreted. Other studies have revealed the most frequent watcher of black male, white female porn are white college males. What does this say about them? It can be an expression of there desire to overpower women when they themselves might be too nice or are simply afraid where it would seem a large black male is not. This in its self is a racist stereotypical assumption on there part.

There is more, but I am tired of writing.

kevbo's avatar

What’s porn?

tinyfaery's avatar

Porn is offensive in so many ways, but sex is an entirely different thing.

I have had sex outside my race. In fact, I have a specific attraction to black men. Now, I am not white, but there is no way that my attraction and the resulting sex is about racism or power issues. I just happen to think big, black men are fuckin’ hot.

I can’t definitively say that when it comes to sexual relations that some individuals might actually be acting out certain ideas about race and power, but even if they are, I’m not judging, as long as the sex is consensual. Maybe sex is a good way to deal with such ingrained and skewed ideas of race.

“Specifically, addressing Black men on white women, it effectively displays a lot of the African American male’s hang ups about oppression, even though they are less than oppressed these days.” This sounds racist to me.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@kevbo whatever you consider porn?

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@sap82 thank you for a thoughtful response

Facade's avatar

I’d say most of it is. Some people get off on the racist-ness of it.
There are also times when it’s just two (or more) people of different skin colors having sex.

kevbo's avatar

Sorry, I’m running for @AstroChuck in 2010.

A couple of reactions:

This is about “mainstream” porn, which I think goes beyond racism in terms of the boxes it maintains. To me, mainstream porn means young, skinny blond with a boob job, a glammed up look, and glossy production value. Derivatives spread from there. I guess my point is that any westernized mainstream media product is going to follow that model.

Regarding her(?) Q about seeing it as just sex (instead of IR sex), that’s kind of out of the purview of porn, which has a category for everything and teases it in their marketing. Fat girls have fat tits, teens have tight orifaces, etc.

IR sex has been filmed, I’m sure, in a way the author is wishing for, but that’s contrary to part of what porn is about, which is objectivized fantasy. How can I satisfy my appetite for something different if the menu doesn’t describe the product?

While I agree with the “State of the Porn Union” characterized in the article, I have to wonder if they’ve ever heard of the Internet. I mean if marginalized porn cultures can’t have a room of their own now, then they should just give up. Why complain about the Big Man and then rely on him for change? I don’t get it.

I think the question of why “interracial” = black and white is an interesting one. I’m sure it’s because it’s an ingrained white taboo left over from segregation/slavery, etc.

“Could there ever be a day… damaged history?”—one might argue that interracial porn can do something to repair that history by opening up bigoted cretins to the possibility of relationships outside one’s race, much like porn is purported to help couples explore and enjoy their sex lives. I’m simplifying greatly, but you get the idea.

So, a) if it isn’t objectifying and categorizing then ur doing it wrong, and/or b) stop complaining and go make rainbow porn.

For the record, I generally dislike what I would characterize as mainstream porn due to the homogenous and glossy/glam aesthetics.

avalmez's avatar

imho, to a certain extent, sex other than for procreation is more or less taboo depending on the activity and individual. and part of what makes recreational sex exciting is that it is taboo – it’s naughty, dirty and fun, and that’s what get our rocks off. You may not agree entirely with what i claim, but i don’t think you have any problem understanding what i mean and to me that’s kind of a verification.

where inter-racial sex is concerned, it existed long before the porn industry, and until very recently inter-racial relations were very much frowned upon. in fact, even today, there are racist but legal strictures against inter-racial (and extra-religion) sex.

however much we as a society have advanced, inter-racial sex remains taboo to many – taboo founded in racism, but taboo nonetheless. And its taboo that makes inter-racial sex a profitable subject for the porn industry.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

Wouldn’t that be more of a fettish?

avalmez's avatar

i believe a fetish is more like an erotic obsession with objects that are not male or female specific parts (bad definition but i’m sure correct anyways). fetishism is taboo while the reverse is not necessarily true.

prude's avatar

I watch porn and to be honest, I don’t notice the differences in race unless it specifically points it out. (I usually only watch gay porn sometimes straight too) if it actually points it out, I go peak, usually just regular porn, nothing special.

laureth's avatar

I can’t remember where I read this, but it is not original to me:

If there is going to be racism in our culture anyway, and you ask a black man whether he’d rather be lynched or if he’d rather have sex with a white woman, you can probably guess what the answer would be.

There probably is racism in porn like that, but some people find the stereotypes hot. frankly, I’d rather that racism cause a massive orgasm for some demographics, rather than have people dead in the streets.

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