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Has a poltical party ever decided to not have the current President run for a second term, choosing someone else from the party to run?

Asked by JLeslie (61535points) December 20th, 2009

Not sure I am being clear. The current day example would be Democrats deciding Obama could not win a second time and running someone else, my secret hope would be Hillary Clinton. I am wondering if it has ever happened in history, and also want to know if that person went on to win?

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Buttonstc's avatar

I don’t think it was the party’s decision for Johnson not to run again since he announced that it was his own decision.

But who really knows what goes on behind the scenes?

dpworkin's avatar

LBJ declined to run for his second term.

MrItty's avatar

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Has_an_incumbent_president_ever_lost_the_nomination_to_run_for_a_second_term

“Yes Five Presidents. Franklin Pierce, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester A. Arthur, and Calvin Coolidge; but only one of which was actually elected President (Pierce). The rest were VPs who were promoted due to assassinations or death in office. ”

JLeslie's avatar

@pdworkin But that was the man himself, although @Buttonstc makes a good point that we don’t know what went on behind the scenes. I was just wondering if the party ever “forced” someone to not run. Or, is it always assumed the person in currently has the best chance?

MrItty's avatar

@JLeslie what do you mean by the “party” forcing someone not to run? A party can’t force someone not to run. That party’s members can simply not nominate them to be the party’s candidate in the general election. Is that what you mean? Or are you talking about the organizers of the party ordering someone “Don’t run”?

dpworkin's avatar

Anything can happen, but it would be highly unlikely. Generally they just accept their loss in the primaries.

JLeslie's avatar

@MrItty I guess force and order are words that might be too harsh, maybe better “ask” him/her not to run.

filmfann's avatar

The closest I can find is in 1908, Teddy Roosevelt decided not to run for reelection. Taft got the nomination, and won the election.
In 1912, Roosevelt tried to unseat Taft. Taft won the primaries, and Roosevelt started the Bull Moose party, and beat Taft in the general election, becoming the only 3rd party candidate to place second (losing to Wilson).

MrItty's avatar

@JLeslie Ah. That makes more sense to me. Thanks.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

The closest would be LBJ, who probably quit due to threats on his worthless hide. After all, most of those involved with JFK’s assassination were offed. LBJ pushed in the Civil Rights rules way sooner than his good ole boy buddies wanted. They were almost as mad at him as they were at Kennedy, who was going to usher in those Civil Rights rules and end the war in Viet Nam by 1965.
Unless you consider murdering Kennedy and performing a coup d’etat as a political party deciding to not have the current President run for a second term, choosing someone else from the party to run?

dpworkin's avatar

If you have indeed solved the Kennedy assassination mystery I hope you will share.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

Oh, you don’t know this?

dpworkin's avatar

No, I’d love to learn.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

Kennedy was in dutch for
1. The Bay of Pigs Fisco
2. He was going to end the VietNam “action” by 1965
3. He was seeing Marilyn Monroe (who was a mob boss’s moll at the time)
4. He was going to pass Civil Rights laws in favor of…civil rights

The FBI, the CIA, LBJ, the Mafia,Cuba (Castro) all wanted him dead. So they offed him in Dallas using 3 triangulated shooters (at the grassy knoll, the railroad overpass, and the fence to the right, behind Zapruder [remeber Zapruder?]) and setting up Lee Oswald as the patsy.

A coup d’etat was completed, overthrowing the Kennedy administration and putting LBJ and his cronies into power.

dpworkin's avatar

Wow, the entire FBI and the entire CIA, and no one ever leaked a word! Tight ship! Nowadays they can’t seem to keep their mouths shut about anything.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

Wow, that was fascinating reasoning. Thanks ever so much for the display of raw logic.

dpworkin's avatar

I’m not sure what you mean. Right in the middle of an ordinary conversation you suddenly get snippy.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

Oh, your diatribe about the fbi and cia keeping their mouths shut was not snappy nor a dig?

dpworkin's avatar

I think it would be best if we stopped conversing. If that’s how you feel, I’m sure you’d just as soon not speak with me anyway, and you seem too angry for me to want to chat with.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

I’m not angry at all. You would say that. it is how you play this game. I will speak to anyone who has a civil tongue and who is not so close-minded as to rject what I believe to be truth out of hand as fiction.

filmfann's avatar

@Kelly_Obrien I am with you on SOME of the CIA, FBI, and the Mob.
Remember that Marilyn was killed the year before JFK.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

@filmfann It’s mostly evident right in front of your very eyes. But it is explained away by people we assume to be above reproach. I mean Earl Warren was a US Supreme Court Justice (and Chief Justice) and you wouldn’t expect him to endorse a theory which goes against a live taping of the event by ZAPRUDER and little silly things like why was his security detail pulled just prior to the turn into the Dealy Plaza, by the Old
Courthouse : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Dealey-plaza-annotated.png
And why did the driver slow to a crawl just as they entered the kill zone, and for the time it took to fire several shots (not just the one shot they claimed was all that was fired that day).
Too many lies….

As for Marilyn, poor baby. Goodbye Norma Jean…

stranger_in_a_strange_land's avatar

The only elected President not renominated by his party was Franklin Pierce. Other Presidents who succeeded to office upon the death of the President (former VPs) were not nominated; Arthur, Filmore and a few others. Several elected Presidents chose not to run again; Benjamin Harrison, Calvin Coolidge, Lyndon Johnson and others.

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